ADR 3/03 seats

[justcobra]

I realise where you are coming from - but from the hypothetical numbers produced by these manufacturer(s )of these good looking taditional style Ac Cobra seats have been to my understanding have been produced for a number of years (probably going back over a decade)and the break-even would have been achieved and it STILL doesnot justify in my opinion the EXHORBITANT PRICE charged.
A good figure should be $1100 which should equate to a similiar type seats which could be imported from the UK which are IVA COMPLIANT.
The UK manufacturer that makes a similiar product would have the same costs and
still is making money which is 50% lower than what could be made locally.
The UK manufacturer supplies the UK Ac cobra market .

[just dreamin]

Oz The Tirerack door is closing, I am told they cannot supply to Aust unless they include original paperwork from manufacturer citing testing and compliance testing with their tyres. Dunlop and some others are excluded as they sell in Oz. So Tirerack have refused to supply and ship here as its too much red tape. So much for competition in the market place and a level playing field. Cant wait for the GST to kick in on internet purchases. Whats the cry Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy No No No.

[Jaydee]

I got my Mickey Thompson tyres from outlaw speed shop, very good price.
JD

[sambo]

Originally Posted by just dreamin

Oz The Tirerack door is closing, I am told they cannot supply to Aust unless they include original paperwork from manufacturer citing testing and compliance testing with their tyres. Dunlop and some others are excluded as they sell in Oz.

Have I got this wrong... Tire Rack won't ship tyres to Australia unless the tyre manufacturer also sells here? Which major manufacturer doesn't sell tyres here?

[OZCOBRA]

Originally Posted by sambo

Have I got this wrong... Tire Rack won't ship tyres to Australia unless the tyre manufacturer also sells here? Which major manufacturer doesn't sell tyres here?

That was my first thought as well!!!!

....so nothing has changed!!!!

[Baz]

Originally Posted by just dreamin

Oz The Tirerack door is closing, I am told they cannot supply to Aust unless they include original paperwork from manufacturer citing testing and compliance testing with their tyres. Dunlop and some others are excluded as they sell in Oz. So Tirerack have refused to supply and ship here as its too much red tape. So much for competition in the market place and a level playing field. Cant wait for the GST to kick in on internet purchases. Whats the cry Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy No No No.

I was chatting to Ethan Burns at TireRack yesterday and he informed me that they are still shipping to Australia. They recently had to make changes to their dealer arrangements with Yokohama, Hankook and some Michelin's. They are no longer permitted to ship these brands out of the USA. Only some of the Michelin tyres are still ok for export.

In order to get an accurate quote from them, you will need to supply your name. billing address, shipping address if different to the billing address, email address,home telephone No, including the country code and another telephone No if you can be reached elsewhere.

After they put together your order and have it weighed, he submits the order to shipping companies for quotes. Once he has the quotes, he chooses the lowest price and sends you an email with the total price. If you change the order in any way, start again from scratch.

They collect for shipping charges only. Any duties, customs, brokerage or taxes is the responsibility of the buyer. Tire Rack cannot accept credit card payments for international orders, only use bank wire transfers.

I think Ethan has taken over from Fred Helmuth, the man we all used to deal with. Hope this helps. I think I might duplicate this quote as a new thread
as it applies to just about all of us.



Baz

[Aussie Mike]

I just got a pair of these from the US.





The plan is to weld a bracket to the back of them for a removable head rest.

They are surprisingly comfortable.

Cheers

Michael

[justcobra]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

I just got a pair of these from the US.





The plan is to weld a bracket to the back of them for a removable head rest.

They are surprisingly comfortable.

Cheers

Michael

Hi Mike.

Would you kindly advise the cobra community where you sourced these good looking seats by providing their web site address?

Is the shell made in aluminium?

Price and avaliabilty would be appreciated.

When I built my Locost 7 I was going to instal alumunium seats and there is a manufacturer located in Campbellfied who will specifically custom make seats to suit narrow bodied cars like the Cobra,Locost and Super modified Sprint Cars.

The gentleman's name is Bob Pascoe but his son does all the welding etc as Bob has sustained some head injury in racing car accident several years back.

Rx Stanley Kilmore Victoria 3764.

[Aussie Mike]

I got them through VPW in Epping. They are the local Kirkey dealer. They are available in various widths to suit your car (Or your behind).

The price from VPW was pretty good but I had to wait 6 months for them to arrive. Lots of delays for them getting them since they are made in Canada and then shipped to LA before going on a ship to Melbourne.

Check out the Kirkey web page for dimensions on them.

Kirkey Racing - Browse Products

All that being said... I don't know if they will be ADR Legal once the new head rest is in place. But at least being aluminium there are some easy options to reinforce them or modify them.

Cheers

Michael

[spookypt]

Looks like a Kirkey to me...

Kirkey Racing - Home

I have one of their "Road/Race" versions in my car. You can get a variety of widths and angles and configurations.....I love mine and they really HOLD you in tight!

I doubt they would be ADR though for road driven applications...

Spookypt

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by spookypt

Looks like a Kirkey to me...
I love mine and they really HOLD you in tight!

Spookypt

I was suprised how comfortable it is despite being made from aluminum and only having a basic vinyl cover. I think they've got the shape pretty spot on. I reckon it should keep me glued in place OK for track days.

It's definitely not ADR legal without some mods but my point was that being aluminium it's easy enough to weld headrest mounts or whatever to it to make it the right height etc. It would probably still need to be tested after the fact.

Cheers

[Ryder]

What about the seats from a smart car? They actually look half decent and are definately designed for small cars. Theres some on Ebay right now - would look good with a recover I think

SMART FORTWO / SMARTCAR FRONT SEATS 2003 - 2007 | eBay

[sambo]

Interesting find Ryder but they don't meet the current ADR, being manufactured in 2007.

[Modena]

SMART Car Seats like this you mean



I got these a few weeks ago, haven't posted details due to lack of time. They're 46cms wide, 3cm narrower than the Alto seats I posted about earlier, and are a good deal lower/thinner. I have looked in some detail and as far as I can tell the current For2 SMART has the same seats, they dont seem to have changed at all. I got mine from a 2008.

[stephen low]

Justcobra

I'd concur that the standard MX5 seats are a tight fit. The G-Force cabin is much the same as the RMC and my standard seats fitted but gave me no room for adjustment.

I solved this by cutting the floor shells down the middle and then retacking the halves together on both sides narrowing the seat pans by 50mm. I needed to similiarly modify the backs to match but as a tubular frame this too was very easy to achieve.

The seats are still very comfortable but now they give me room to manouvre the seats to a position that suits.

You are not going to find an easy option for a good seat fit unfortunately.

[Jaydee]

I have a cr and the biggest hurdle is the wheel arch when the seat is right back. I'm waiting on my wheels to see if I can cut into them and refibreglass.
JD
Did the smart seats fit squarely to the steering?
JD

[Ryder]

So... just to clarify...
If you use seats from a car manufactured after 2007, will they automaticly pass the new ADR?

I tried reading through the ADR paperwork, but it made me fall asleep. Then I had a dream some crazy old guy in a suit was trying to strangle me with red tape. Also, I'm not very good with legal stuff - so if it's as simple as using a seat from a newer car then I'll be happy

[Zedn]

Originally Posted by Ryder

So... just to clarify...
If you use seats from a car manufactured after 2007, will they automaticly pass the new ADR?

I tried reading through the ADR paperwork, but it made me fall asleep. Then I had a dream some crazy old guy in a suit was trying to strangle me with red tape. Also, I'm not very good with legal stuff - so if it's as simple as using a seat from a newer car then I'll be happy

It depends on the car you are getting them from. THe requirement came in on the 1st of July 2008 for all new models. If the model did not change then it can contiue to be produced with old compliant seats.

In other words if a commodore xyz model is released in 2007 and continues to 2009, it doesnt have to comply with the new ADR unless it is a new model. If they release a new version of the commodore after July 2008 then it needs to comply.

Modena, what is the height of the seat back?

[Modena]

Originally Posted by Zedn

Modena, what is the height of the seat back?

from the top of the base to the top of the back is 890mm

[sambo]

Ryder, my understanding is that the 3 year grace period for the previous ADR for seats (3/02?) expired in July 2011, which means you need a seat from a car manufactured after mid-2008. Best to check with your engineer though.