That other guy named Ed and DVs CRII build - Page 50

Double Venom · #1 (**permalink**) 07-30-2009, 03:28 AM

Jim,
I think this is somewhat the location MASNAKA is referring to. It reads the ENGINE water temp. Many cars will use the Ford thermostat housing with a threaded insert in it. This too with sending unit mounted in place will read the engine temp. Many, including all of mine have two temp. units in place with the second one, actually a set temperature setting after the thermorstat, (usually on the side of the radiator) which I hook up to the fan, will turn the fan on automatically.

DV

PS, sorry it's a little fuzzy, too dammm early to set up the tripod!

capteddie · #2 (**permalink**) 07-30-2009, 01:26 PM

So.... DV is your shop a little emptier today?

jimhurtt · #3 (**permalink**) 07-31-2009, 11:15 AM

Thanks for the info and comparisons on the location of the sending unit for the coolant temperature gauge. It is interesting the different replies and other answers I have gotten to this question. I guess there would be no difference if your sending unit reads the coolant after the thermostat or before, unless your thermostat stuck in the closed position. I installed a new thermostat, that if it sticks, is supposed to stick in the open position as my sending unit is after the thermostat. I have looked for a chrome water neck for my 302 (where the top radiator hose and thermostat come out of the intake manifold) but none are threaded for the sending unit on top like mine. So I don't know where my water neck came from. Good idea on controlling your fans DV. Mine come on and stay on with the ignition switch.

capteddie · #4 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 07:49 AM

Well... Made it back from DVs last night. Really wish I could post that the car is done and it came back with me on the trailer. But we've been getting bit in the A$$

by gremlins for the last month or so. First it was an electrical issue that was blowing the main fuse. Well we think that problem/gremlin has been put out of its misery. Now we have a problem were the engine won't fire. Yesterday DV and I came to the conclusion that it must be a fuel delivery issue. We have spark and we have air. What we don't have is fuel

If you pump the carb. One jet squirts a mixture of air and fuel, pretty much just spitting

the other jet barely drips

If we pour some fuel down the throat she fires right up, but then dies for lack of gas

So... We think the fuel pump has failed. Its mechanical, so more than likely a cracked diaphragm or some other failure. DV and I went and picked up an electrical pump yesterday (might as well take the opportunity to make the switch from mechanical to electric at this point) and he's hopefully swapping it out today.

After all that. One nice piece of custom DV work did get finished and thats the radiator/nose shroud. Here's a pic of the nose unfinished ( wish I had a better one, but its to late now

) and one finished. It really sets the front nose off nicely

jimhurtt · #5 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 03:05 PM

DV: Question. You said the top of the trunk latch was mounted 14 1/2"" OC from the botton lip of the trunk lid. Did you measure it following the curve of the lid or is it diagonally straight accross?

Also wondering why CapTeddie's oil coller was not mounted in the bottom air scoop. Is that not what that lower scoop was designed for? Is there a problem if you mount it there?

Jim

Double Venom · #6 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 01:19 PM

Now that I have a new tech "hi-speed' toy, lets get it on while a take a short break.
Jim- Absolutely sorry to take so long.....13 1/4"s on the diagonal!

TEST:
Lets find out good you are?

I in all candor place myself in a three & 1/2 stars out of four building cobras and street rods but this particular gremlin took me down more than a couple of steps!

Problem: All wiring was tested being built and came out OK!
However after total assembly if you turned the headlights on you got low beams OK, BUT the minute you switched to hi-beams the breaker would pop!

What I did-over three long days!
Tracked and traced every wire in the headlight circuit
Then tracked and traced all the lights-even the parking lights
Replaced the headlight switch
replaced the foot operated hi-low switch
Replaced the steering column connector
Checked every ground and every wire to see if it was grounded........
Checked all of Flaming Rivers column wiring.

NONE of this brought me any closer to an answer! cpteddie understandably was a nervous wreck!

OK, you know what I did without finding the answer-what did I miss-what was the answer-it was soooo obvious-when I did find it.

If you get it first time Four starts to you
1 to 2 thoughts Thee stars
3 to five guess's two stars
More than 5 guesses you get to work for me!

DV Going back to electrical 101

tcrist · #7 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 01:36 PM

The fuse was too small?

Terry

capteddie · #8 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcrist

The fuse was too small?

Terry

nope....

Double Venom · #9 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 02:23 PM

Good guess Terry but, the system is on a 30 amp resettable breaker. Nothing to do with the size of the wire, (Hiway 15 harness) or the fuses!
DV
PS. THE 30 AMP BREAKER HAS BEEN CHANGED TO A 25 THOUGH.

Double Venom · #10 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 03:27 PM

C'mon,
Terry can't be the only one with a good guess! Raise your hand or every body gets -0- stars!

DV

sdfletch · #11 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 05:37 PM

Short in the headlight itself?

capteddie · #12 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdfletch

Short in the headlight itself?

Ah.... no

Keep the guesses/troublshooting coming

Jcmrant · #13 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 05:51 PM

When you switched to high beams you were grounding the circuit instead of powering headlights?

capteddie · #14 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jcmrant

When you switched to high beams you were grounding the circuit instead of powering headlights?

Yes! but where?

Jcmrant · #15 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:28 PM

oh sure now you want to know where? :-) How about at the headlight?

capteddie · #16 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jcmrant

oh sure now you want to know where? :-) How about at the headlight?

LOL not at the headlights

That's what makes this gremlin hunt so interesting.... keep thinking....

onefastmustang · #17 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:30 PM

Probably under the hi beam switch if it is the floor based model.

capteddie · #18 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefastmustang

Probably under the hi beam switch if it is the floor based model.

It is a floor based dimmer switch.... but that's not where the problem was

onefastmustang · #19 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:43 PM

Inside a relay that was being triggered by said switch?

capteddie · #20 (**permalink**) 08-15-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefastmustang

Inside a relay that was being triggered by said switch?

Sorry... no...

This gremlin was so hidden it turned DVs hair 43 different shades of gray. So here's my take on the how things shook out.

So I would turn the head lights on and everything was fine. As soon as I hit the floor mounted dimmer switch and toggle the high beams, we would loose the head lights. Parking and turn indicator lights were fine.