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Old 01-29-2012, 12:40 PM
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Now that's funny Jay!

30 week lead.

Established in 1984.

TS40 in continuous production since 1989.

Removable door tops for the claustrophobic among us.

Three chassis types available, steel spaceframe, ally composite monocoque, carbon composite monocoque.

When all the others have long since stopped making GT40 replicas, we will still be quietly doing what we do...building TS40's

Best regards and looking forward to a beer with you and Rick at Carlisle.

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I should have limited my response to GT40s I've seen more than 2 of...
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interesting comments on the gt40.
i was thinking of maybe building one in the future, something with a twin turbo 6-cylinder or such.

my cobra is only 1 year old - i could not foresee parting with it! best.car.ever!
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:42 PM
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I've also had both and I agree with Jay.
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I am in the same boat, have had cobras for 6 years now. Thought GT40 was the next step but others have said what Jay indicates. I suggest you test drive one, I have not. The GT40 look smoking hot. Maybe what we need is a waterproof Cobra, I dont need ac but get tired of watching the sky. By dry I mean an protected engine compartment, some way to close scoop, and a very easy top to install and remove without scratching the car. Guess I am getting old.
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:07 AM
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A SPF GT40 will run you north of $120K to put in a good power train. One was at Barrett Jackson last week for $132K (which would be $120K plus the 10% fee)

1966 SHELBY Lot 1245.4 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company

Ignore the Shelby stuff, it's a SPF car. I sincerely doubt the Shelby tagging added any value. I do like the Tungsten gray/silver color. It was my first choice for the FGT but the Heritage was the zero'th choice that I thought would never happen but did.
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I see Mr. Bruce has a few hard top styles for Ac's. Looks like they would make a long trip in a roadster much more comfortable. Look cool too
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:53 AM
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Modifying a Cobra to make it more like a sedan is to me kinda like bolting training wheels on a motorcycle to keep the darn thing from wanting to fall over all the time. Sell it and buy something else that suits you better! (Corvette?)
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I have just over 82k on my RFGT40 . If I have learned anything about this car it's the long distance comfort it has. To me it's like driving a lazy boy lounger. You guys worry to much about visibility. I see fine out the mirrors and the rear window. The luggage space is minimal but as you saw, Bernie and I were able to carry all we needed for a two week journey.
I still have my 26yr old cobra. I still drive it and I enjoy it very much. It's a different animal. It's more demanding on the track and
more tiring on long trips to me. The GT is a lot more civilized on and off the track. If you get a GT you will learn quickly after a good trip how cool they, after all it is called a touring class vehicle.

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Get in one, have someone close the door and not let you out for 30 minutes just sitting there... Not many would still want one given the cost and other options.

I had "ours" for 2+ years. Of the 600 or so miles I would say about 75 or so were pure enjoyment and freedom... The rest were plagued by avoiding others driving over me, crashing into the side of me while taking photos, insisting on "racing" me, limited visibility, awful trailer loading and unloading, fueling both sides, etc.

If you think a Cobra is a bunch of tinkering, a GT40 replica will school you.
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There is a half way house alternative... Daytona coupe!!!! full roof , aircon, rear storage space.
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Old 01-22-2012, 12:26 PM
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Dang BMBC,

You beat me to it! Was literally just typing the thought - Daytona Coupe!

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I was at Barrett Jackson, went to the SPF booth and sat in both a GT40 and Daytona Coupe. I fit in both, which surprised the crap out of me.

They had a Daytona there with competition flares that looked stunning- I have never been a big fan of the Daytona, but that one changed my mind. Anyone have pics of that one?

I was looking because living in Vancouver the driving options with a cobra where the chances of rain are low seems to leave one with not many driving days...
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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Don't worry about Mr. Muck, he's sold a ton of cars for me over the years. I suppose I should buy him a beer.
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Decline in general courtesy, let's see, we are all getting older, the economy sucks, Washington sucks, the only going good in this country is APple!!!!!!
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Decline in general courtesy, let's see, we are all getting older, the economy sucks, Washington sucks, the only going good in this country is APple!!!!!!
Several people have commented that I have become not only kinder, but gentler as well, showing increased tolerance and courtesy to others while embracing contrary viewpoints, some of which lack any redeeming value whatsoever.
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Several people have commented that I have become not only kinder, but gentler as well, showing increased tolerance and courtesy to others while embracing contrary viewpoints, some of which lack any redeeming value whatsoever.
Yes, I can see that your kinder and gentler.

Swift, don't get me wrong, I've wanted a GT40 for a long time, and came close to buying a GT40 roller a couple years ago. But once you close the door, there's no convertible top, no sunroof and no windows to roll down.

I like the Ford GT's and for an extra $50,000 +/-, I think they're a better choice for many reasons.
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Yes, I can see that your kinder and gentler.

Swift, don't get me wrong, I've wanted a GT40 for a long time, and came close to buying a GT40 roller a couple years ago. But once you close the door, there's no convertible top, no sunroof and no windows to roll down.

I like the Ford GT's and for an extra $50,000 +/-, I think they're a better choice for many reasons.
That means I can buy a spf gt40 and with the $50,000 left over buy a very nice used spf cobra, a 2 for 1, I would take a gt40 and a cobra all day long, over just a gt.
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RodKnock is right. They do have A/C, but the windows are the in-place plexiglass/lexan with the access port. I could see getting a major case of claustrophobia. I'm told you can get regular roll-up windows if you want but then you wouldn't be able to vintage race. I'm sure Lance can answer all these questions and more.

I settled on the Ford GT because it met my wife's criteria for creature comforts. I will state that the new CSX9000 Daytona Coupes (slightly remodeled interior from the previous SPF version) and it's creature comfort index was quite high and it also had real trunk space. The FGT has none. I don't care what you call that little thing in front, it don't work.


A former FGT owner who lives near by swapped his red FGT for a SPF GT40. We did a spirited drive on the day I got mine and pretty much put them into hibernation for the winter. We will regroup in the spring. I don't believe I would fit in it - I think the steering wheel would hit my lap. This can be solved with lower seats but in this respect a GT40 pretty much has to be "fit" to the owner. He put the same engine I had in my Cobra - Roush 427R (he got carbs instead of DFI) and changed the mufflers and it sounds great! I wish I could get my FGT to sound like that.

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Anyone know the weight difference of Ford GT vs a SPF gt40 with lets say the roush 427?
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