Give up a 991 GT3 for a Superformance GT40?

[RodKnock]

I only do basic math, no multi-variable calculus for me.

So, here's a brand new RHD Gulf SPF GT40 in Hemmings asking $134,000. I assume it's fully optioned with the RHD and Gulf paint.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...0/1774884.html

Add: $10,000 SBF engine
Add: $10,000 ZF transaxle
Add: $10,000 Olthoff install, parts & labor

And you got yourself a brand SPF Gulf GT40 for roughly $160,000 more or less. You can certainly spend more (or less) on a SBF. And you certainly can spend more (or less) on a transaxle.

Or you can buy a used red SPF GT40, assuming it's still available, for about $130,000. A seller can ask whatever they want for their goods, that's America. But only when a seller becomes motivated, will a deal be struck, often, substantially below their ask.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I only do basic math, no multi-variable calculus for me.

So, here's a brand new RHD Gulf SPF GT40 in Hemmings asking $134,000. I assume it's fully optioned with the RHD and Gulf paint.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...0/1774884.html

Add: $10,000 SBF engine
Add: $10,000 ZF transaxle
Add: $10,000 Olthoff install, parts & labor

And you got yourself a brand SPF Gulf GT40 for roughly $160,000 more or less. You can certainly spend more (or less) on a SBF. And you certainly can spend more (or less) on a transaxle.

Or you can buy a used red SPF GT40, assuming it's still available, for about $130,000. A seller can ask whatever they want for their goods, that's America. But only when a seller becomes motivated, will a deal be struck, often, substantially below their ask.

True. I think you are light on the $10k for the engine and I never understood trans-axles.

[Mark IV]

Engine can be done for 10K (dependent upon power level and induction type), light on a new RBT-ZF transaxle.

[MHNCO]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Engine can be done for 10K (dependent upon power level and induction type).

I must have done it wrong because I'm double that plus quite a bit.

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by MHNCO

I must have done it wrong because I'm double that plus quite a bit.

Mike,

I said and engine CAN be done for 10K but it certainly won't be an aluminum block, or a stroker or 8 stack/Webers, etc.

And you CAN buy a -2 ZF from a Pantera for 5 grand and have it GT40 ready for 7K but it will be a 4.22 final and used.

It's not about what most people do in their GT build-outs, the point was it is possible.

I think you have done it right! Only just not the first time! After all you have repainted your car and now repowered it. Sort of a "Ship of Theseus"

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Mike,

I said and engine CAN be done for 10K but it certainly won't be an aluminum block, or a stroker or 8 stack/Webers, etc.

And you CAN buy a -2 ZF from a Pantera for 5 grand and have it GT40 ready for 7K but it will be a 4.22 final and used.

It's not about what most people do in their GT build-outs, the point was it is possible.

I think you have done it right! Only just not the first time! After all you have repainted your car and now repowered it. Sort of a "Ship of Theseus"

Yes, all I was pointing out was you can spend less or more depending on your budget. Craft Engines can build a stroker SB for $10K:

SBF Street/Performance - Craft Performance Engines

I'm not saying I would use them (Craft), but that ad was easy to grab. We have a CC member who had a nice 289/302 built for his 289 Cobra for a lot less than $10K. We had an Australian member build a $60K Cammer for his Kirkham. I can tell you guys this, if I'm going to spend $20K on a SBF, then it better be a stroker, say like a 331, with some fancy induction setup, Carillo rods and a Moldex crank.

All this GT40 talk has me thinking again. I just have to keep reminding myself that sitting in a GT40 felt like having an MRI done in one of those claustrophic tubes.

I can understand replacing your engine with something else, but repainting the entire GT40? Why?

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, all I was pointing out was you can spend less or more depending on your budget. Craft Engines can build a stroker SB for $10K:

SBF Street/Performance - Craft Performance Engines

I'm not saying I would use them (Craft), but that ad was easy to grab. We have a CC member who had a nice 289/302 built for his 289 Cobra for a lot less than $10K. We had an Australian member build a $60K Cammer for his Kirkham. I can tell you guys this, if I'm going to spend $20K on a SBF, then it better be a stroker, say like a 331, with some fancy induction setup, Carillo rods and a Moldex crank.

All this GT40 talk has me thinking again. I just have to keep reminding myself that sitting in a GT40 felt like having an MRI done in one of those claustrophic tubes.

I can understand replacing your engine with something else, but repainting the entire GT40? Why?

Red to white.

And you don't like MRIs? H@ll I fall asleep with all of the buzzing, clanking, etc. Last one for my shoulder I was bummed when they rolled me out as I was getting the best nap I have had in some time.

You either really "get" the GT40 or you don't. I miss mine. However, I took a neighbor who has had numerous Corvettes for a ride and didn't make it quarter mile before he begged to turn around, he is claustrophobic and the small cabin and lack of roll down windows freaked him out!

[MHNCO]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Sort of a "Ship of Theseus"

Indeed. One of the things that attracted me from my Ford GT to the GT40 was in essence, it is a blank canvas that I can paint however I decide. The car may get a new livery again in it's lifetime. I really like the livery on this Gelscoe that won Goodwood this year. It could end up with Webers before the year is out who knows. It will never have a "stroker" and it will always have a solid lifter 302 screamer.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by MHNCO

Indeed. One of the things that attracted me from my Ford GT to the GT40 was in essence, it is a blank canvas that I can paint however I decide. The car may get a new livery again in it's lifetime. I really like the livery on this Gelscoe that won Goodwood this year. It could end up with Webers before the year is out who knows. It will never have a "stroker" and it will always have a solid lifter 302 screamer.

I can't imagine a person who thinks fully adjustable suspension equates to adjustable geometry being able to get a set of Weber's jetted correctly at
Colorado altitudes. You should stick to the 4 barrel, it will likely better suit your mechanical aptitude and driving ability.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by MHNCO

Indeed. One of the things that attracted me from my Ford GT to the GT40 was in essence, it is a blank canvas that I can paint however I decide. The car may get a new livery again in it's lifetime. I really like the livery on this Gelscoe that won Goodwood this year. It could end up with Webers before the year is out who knows. It will never have a "stroker" and it will always have a solid lifter 302 screamer.

I'm not a huge fan of green cars, but I like that green one. At least it's a bright hue. White cars remind me of an appliance on wheels.

And nothing wrong with stroking an engine unless you're qualifying for a race, which requires a cap on displacement. Makes ZERO sense to me, and most of us, not to take an advantage of free cubic inches.

Webers at altitude? Oy vey. Good luck with that.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by MHNCO

I must have done it wrong because I'm double that plus quite a bit.

Ford Boss 302 331 Stroked Motor

Probably better components than you used for "over double that plus quite a bit"

[MHNCO]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Ford Boss 302 331 Stroked Motor

Probably better components than you used for "over double that plus quite a bit"

Actually, some of the same components and some better and more $$ but then again there's quite a bit more to an engine build than just the components. Thanks for playing.