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Old 01-19-2015, 09:45 PM
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Points well taken. Having said that, and knowing the history of the Superformance brand, the high production quality and reliability of it as well, that most of the other brands cannot claim, supports the high prices. Sure, there are those that get rid of their SPF cars in a desperate attempt to regain their investment originally, those are the unfortunate facts of any brand. However, the premium brand that Superformance has evolved into, as well as being the ONLY ONE that can claim the true License by Carroll Shelby, is here and and one you cannot hide or ignore. That my friend has increased its perceived value that is supported by desirability and sales at higher prices.

The above in no way claims that there are not many other quality and exceptional replicas out there, I know, I have witnessed, experienced them and owned them. But the unique stature the Superformance Premium Brand has attained is not an imaginary and inflated fact. It is backed up by its sustained reliability and predictable desirability. Many thousands of them.

Can I get rid of my SPF car today for $50,000? Sure. Can you buy one for that or less? Sure, but am I going to let you have it for less than $70,0000 because you want to steal great premium quality? Absolutely not. You have to experience the brand, then decide if it is right $$$$ for you or not.

You can buy cheaper Cobra replicas for sure. But you just will not cheapen a premium brand image by criticizing its premium brand status because the prices are high. They are high because they are worth it, there is fundamental quality and production reasons for that. You have to make the choice of what you want to spend in any brand of replica. They may all look the same at 50 feet, sorry to say, they are not.

Good luck in your search, whatever makes you individually happy is what counts after all.

In answer to your beginning statement, and with all due respect, "I also have nothing to gain from this statement, just stating my perceived facts."

Just MHO.

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They advertise them at those inflated prices all over the web, not many of them have sold for anything near those asking prices. Although, it really is a matter of numbers, just like the spammers that send out 1,000,000 spoofed emails a day telling people to "verify their accounts", all it takes is one to respond to make the scam work.

Most SPF's that I have seen marked as sold and pulled from the market are in the $42,000-$57,000 range. Are there exemptions to that rule, of course, but those are the truly exceptional cars at the top of their game. 427 Sideoiler powered, no small block, or 460 powered cars in that grouping, at least none that I have heard about.


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In answer to your beginning statement, and with all due respect, "I also have nothing to gain from this statement, just stating my perceived facts."
While a lot of what you say may have some truth to it... I challenge your statement above. ^
You seemingly own at least one SPF, therefore have a vested interest, and a dog (or two) in this fight...

Just sayin'
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:55 AM
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So what you are "just sayin" is that any negative remarks about any brand made here should just remain a remark without responses to it? Yes, I have nothing to gain from this, other brands are just as important as Superformance, the remarks made in the quoted thread were against Superformance specifically and not any other Cobra Replica brands that I can tell. I did not say that Superformance is better than any other brand because I own one. I stated that the perceived value and high prices are what they are because of reasons stated in my previous response.

This is the reason that, yes, folks, FEWER AND FEWER people are coming back to Club Cobra. A bad taste is what is left from infrequent visits.

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While a lot of what you say may have some truth to it... I challenge your statement above. ^
You seemingly own at least one SPF, therefore have a vested interest, and a dog (or two) in this fight...

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Old 01-20-2015, 07:22 AM
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I hope I haven't unintentionally sturred something up with my question, I'm just in unknown territory, and trying to move up the learning curve.

Coming out of the BMW world, there were a lot more data points to understand the market, and knew what trade-in vs private seller vs dealer prices would be for a given type of car. Car forums and e-bay completed sells helped, just not a lot of data here on or ebay.

I know some of it will be clearer when I actually make an offer on a car, but I just don't want to wait someones time by lowballing someone who is expecting to get 100% of their list price. If $70K+ really is the market, I'll have to look at another manufactuer.

I'll just have to wait and see if a car I like comes up and see what I'm willing to offer, and they are willing to accept.
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:33 AM
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03BeastCharmer,

You have not disrupted anything. You are doing your due diligence, and you are right in asking all those questions. The market is filled with a lot of very nice brands. Not all the same, nor same level of quality and price points. You have to make that decision on your own. However it would be wise to visit the events, check out the different brands up close and determine which appeals to you best and suits your price level.

If you are a BMW owner you may want to check out the Backdraft brand of replicas. They have a BMW based suspension that is awesome.

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I hope I haven't unintentionally sturred something up with my question, I'm just in unknown territory, and trying to move up the learning curve.

Coming out of the BMW world, there were a lot more data points to understand the market, and knew what trade-in vs private seller vs dealer prices would be for a given type of car. Car forums and e-bay completed sells helped, just not a lot of data here on or ebay.

I know some of it will be clearer when I actually make an offer on a car, but I just don't want to wait someones time by lowballing someone who is expecting to get 100% of their list price. If $70K+ really is the market, I'll have to look at another manufactuer.

I'll just have to wait and see if a car I like comes up and see what I'm willing to offer, and they are willing to accept.
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