Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[mullen2]

Been reading this thread and it is interesting all the different opinions.

I have owned a Kirkham and also own a CSX car. In my opinion a aluminum CSX car is not a replica of a cobra. The way I look at it it was built at Shelby's Factory, has his vin number so it is a Shelby Cobra no doubt.

Rolex has been making the Submariner for may years and I can still buy a new one from them at a high price. Yes, many others make replicas of the Submariner but I want a genuine watch from Rolex with paperwork backing it up. I feel the same about my Cobra. Again, in my opinion, the cars with original Carroll Shelby paperwork that were built while he was still living at his factory by his employees are the most collectable and in my opinion are Real Shelby Cobras.

A Kirkham cobra is a "Kirkham Cobra"
A Shelby Cobra is A "Shelby Cobra"
A FFR Cobra is a "FFR Cobra"

[Jamo]

Dos shelbys...hombre...at least I got it down to one freeking thread so the front page isn't filled with polls and the same arguments in numerous threads.

Even trying to hijack the damn thing...what kind of watch are you wearing?

That being said, I'm reading the same stuff over and over again...NYG has evidently nothing new to offer and stopped posting. Evan's having to answer the same questions put to him countless times, so obviously his answer's going to be the same. Becker's offered up some informed info, which helped.

This one's going to end soon...and there will not be any more allowed to start it up again.

mullen...good logic stated efficiently.

[Jamo]

By the way...

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Even trying to hijack the damn thing...what kind of watch are you wearing?

A Timex Iron Man digital watch with two time zones and alarms. Costs about $12 on Amazon.com and lasts as long as the battery by which time the plastic band is also breaking. Two years or so. I used to buy watches, but now I'm in the "daily driver" mode on them. I have toys with V8s not springs

mullen...good logic stated efficiently.

Yep

^^And I could have used lots of words to agree, but to be efficient, I didn't.

[OnyxRider]

Here's something new.....wait Jamo....


Someone is buying big American V-8's and shoe-horning them into lightweight British cars! Oh I bet you heard that before.

But the V-8 is the "thundering" 6.6 GM Duramax diesel. Top speed of 190mph+ and get more than 50mpg. (not at 190)

2000 miles on a tank of gas.

I copied the print...most of the above not my words.

www.tridentsportscars.com


Wonder if that price of 160,000. is a watch thrown in the deal.

Not sure but heard you can get a roller in as little as 4-5 months. Not sure what model though from SAI.


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[OnyxRider]

....on anther note..

For that Chevy powered cobra thread.


1965 Shelby Kirkham Cobra 427 - California

[mullen2]

I own one of the early CSX1000 cars where the body was hand hammered by AC on some of the original wooden bucks before the deal between Shelby and AC fell apart. The cars were shipped to Shelby from england to be finished. Took way more than two years from the time the cars were ordered. I think only the first 14 of the 1000 series had hand hammered aluminum bodes by AC.

I paid well north of 300K for my car because of its rarity and quality. Also because Carroll was directly involved with making the 1000 cars happen, keeping them true to the original heritage even wearing AC Cobra badging on the nose.

In my opinion, the Aluminum 4000 cars built in the living years are approaching the 200K mark, maybe not yet but soon.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by mullen2

I own one of the early CSX1000 cars where the body was hand hammered by AC on some of the original wooden bucks before the deal between Shelby and AC fell apart. The cars were shipped to Shelby from england to be finished. Took way more than two years from the time the cars were ordered. I think only the first 14 of the 1000 series had hand hammered aluminum bodes by AC.

I paid well north of 300K for my car because of its rarity and quality. Also because Carroll was directly involved with making the 1000 cars happen, keeping them true to the original heritage even wearing AC Cobra badging on the nose.

In my opinion, the Aluminum 4000 cars built in the living years are approaching the 200K mark, maybe not yet but soon.

I think you do have one of the very special continuation cars (1000 series) that can claim to be be the second closest relatives to the originals (I consider the McCluskeys to be first), and I think they are in a class all by them selves. I saw one of them being delivered to SAI when they were up at the race track and it was simply gorgeous seeing this filed aluminum body on the open truck (presumably from a railyard). Then talked about the remaining transformation to bring it to finished roller. It's a lot of work!

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by mullen2

I own one of the early CSX1000 cars where the body was hand hammered by AC on some of the original wooden bucks before the deal between Shelby and AC fell apart. The cars were shipped to Shelby from england to be finished. Took way more than two years from the time the cars were ordered. I think only the first 14 of the 1000 series had hand hammered aluminum bodes by AC.

I paid well north of 300K for my car because of its rarity and quality. Also because Carroll was directly involved with making the 1000 cars happen, keeping them true to the original heritage even wearing AC Cobra badging on the nose.

In my opinion, the Aluminum 4000 cars built in the living years are approaching the 200K mark, maybe not yet but soon.

Your car is a rare Continuation Cobra for sure. The peanut gallery here is what it is. I agree that the early alloy Continuation Cobras and others special Shelby's will bring a premium especially in the future if the hobby endures. The early cars had many details the current ones do not have along with being at SAI when CS was there and very much involved.

Rocknock: it matters not a wit to me whether you believe me or not. Many factors and information suppied here by others support increasing values on alloy Shelby Cobras and my own experience bears this out to me. You not so much. I get it.

[Hydramada]

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Your car is a rare Continuation Cobra for sure. The peanut gallery here is what it is. I agree that the early alloy Continuation Cobras and others special Shelby's will bring a premium especially in the future if the hobby endures. The early cars had many details the current ones do not have along with being at SAI when CS was there and very much involved.

I think a lot of interesting tidbits have come to the surface if you can swim through the muck.

I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.

Interesting thing about when Bill Harrah had his guys scour the countryside, his big interest was the first one made or the last one made in a series. That along with very rare cars. That's why I asked about CSX 1001.

I would be interested to hear what details are on those early Cobras that are not being produced in later generations.

What hold on for a second you mean those early Cobras being associated with CS are closer to originals? Then Real1's may be closer to a fakeydoo Cobra than he thinks. Only joking but I hear better than yours coming through all the time so the early ones are better than others in your opinion?

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.

I had an AC Autokraft. It was a beautifully crafted car.
But if it was built on original bucks, then Angliss (or someone else) changed them.

As far as the lightweights, I don't know. Rick (Mark IV) would.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

I think a lot of interesting tidbits have come to the surface if you can swim through the muck.

I heard a lot about those original body bucks being used by Angliss and so many have come out that they were not original. Who knows.

Interesting thing about when Bill Harrah had his guys scour the countryside, his big interest was the first one made or the last one made in a series. That along with very rare cars. That's why I asked about CSX 1001.

I would be interested to hear what details are on those early Cobras that are not being produced in later generations.

What hold on for a second you mean those early Cobras being associated with CS are closer to originals? Then Real1's may be closer to a fakeydoo Cobra than he thinks. Only joking but I hear better than yours coming through all the time so the early ones are better than others in your opinion?

Hard for me to follow. You speak in strange tongue.

Yes, you could say my Cobra is closer to fakeydoo than CSX1000 if you like and if that makes CC member happy but it is still no fakeydoo so no cigar.

[Jamo]

Damn Onyx, THAT would make for a great tow vehicle with some sway controls (tail wagging dog).

dos shelbys...got something against donkey balls?

[OnyxRider]

What do you think 1001 is worth?

That's the one that was a childrens raffle charity, I believe.

CSX 1001

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

What do you think 1001 is worth?

That's the one that was a childrens raffle charity, I believe.

CSX 1001

The winner sold it but that was a while ago... They don't change hands very often (at least with the trade being of public record) so using comps to set value will be difficult.

[mullen2]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

What do you think 1001 is worth?

That's the one that was a childrens raffle charity, I believe.

CSX 1001

Not sure, It sold at auction back in 2011 for 335,500.

I would be more than willing to open the bid at 400K today...

[stephen_becker]

In the beginning Carroll Shelby created the Shelby Cobra automobile - after that it becomes a bit "fuzzy"………….

[stephen_becker]

now I'm gonna get flamed in 3……2……..1……..

[stephen_becker]

see that? - I even had to edit myself on my (prior) Genesis funny post - dang, I am getting good at this!!!