Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Uh, huh.
I don't mean to get all 'patrickt' on you...

Nothing wrong with that.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Nothing wrong with that.

I don't know about that.

I'm giving the baby it's yearly bath. Every damn nook and cranny. Cleaner than new.

Now all I need is my camera and a manicure (That zinger was for you, Chas).

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by rodneym

I'm giving the baby it's yearly bath. Every damn nook and cranny. Cleaner than new.

And his middle name is "Prestone."

[csx4017]

We will be heading to the Coronado Speed Event in September. Fun why to support the Navy and Marines. I am X Naval Air 1961-65. " Go Navy "

[D111]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

finished nicely and with detail.

real 1 do you know of the continuation car that I mentioned being a jersey guy also?

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by D111

real 1 do you know of the continuation car that I mentioned being a jersey guy also?

Which Shelby again? Refresh me.

[D111]

[quote=REAL 1;1258830]Which Shelby again?


post 187 a couple up

[REAL 1]

[quote=D111;1258832]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Which Shelby again?


post 187 a couple up

My guess is CSX4267

[Jamo]

OnyxRider...Brian's a fun guy...several of us have spent time with him in California and Florida through a teammate of his. Got me a ride in Thunder Guts around the Historics paddock and learned how to pronounce fok correctly. Good guy...part of the group doing stuff to honor JPJr a bit.

[NewYorkGuy]

at airport waiting for my flight and I started reading this thread... and I had a flashback to my days at USC business school. One of my favorite professors wrote on the board, "The best criminals don't rob you with a gun or violence; the true master criminal robs you with hugs and kisses."

CSX rollers starting at $160K for a 60 year old car design?... must have been plenty of hugs and kisses at the showroom.

[STL Mark]

NYG - take a stroll into the showroom, and take one for a test drive. You'll want one. No hugs or kisses necessary. BTW - they'll sell every single one that they make - at full price.

You can drive a stick can't you?

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

at airport waiting for my flight and I started reading this thread... and I had a flashback to my days at USC business school. One of my favorite professors wrote on the board, "The best criminals don't rob you with a gun or violence; the true master criminal robs you with hugs and kisses."

Whoops! You may want to get a tuition refund from USC. You must have missed or possibly failed Econ 101. You know, the concept of "Supply vs. Demand."

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

at airport waiting for my flight and I started reading this thread... and I had a flashback to my days at USC business school. One of my favorite professors wrote on the board, "The best criminals don't rob you with a gun or violence; the true master criminal robs you with hugs and kisses."

CSX rollers starting at $160K for a 60 year old car design?... must have been plenty of hugs and kisses at the showroom.

Well the good thing about college is that you get a rounded exposure to lots of things including hippy professors teaching Philosophy elective courses. Having been married in the past, I know exactly what you mean by the type of criminal described by your professor.

Interestingly I was looking at an article recently that had this information in it:

2013 Acura ILX
Base price: $25,900
Fully loaded price: $34,400

2012 Honda Civic sedan
Base price: $15,955
Fully loaded price: $26,900

The ILX and Civic are built on the same platform, so essentially they are the same car with different features for prices between $15,955 and $34,400. The top end of the line is more than double the price of the bottom end. It looks like Shelby is just following the rest of the industry as far as pricing goes.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Well the good thing about college is that you get a rounded exposure to lots of things including hippy professors teaching Philosophy elective courses. Having been married in the past, I know exactly what you mean by the type of criminal described by your professor.

Interestingly I was looking at an article recently that had this information in it:

2013 Acura ILX
Base price: $25,900
Fully loaded price: $34,400

2012 Honda Civic sedan
Base price: $15,955
Fully loaded price: $26,900

The ILX and Civic are built on the same platform, so essentially they are the same car with different features for prices between $15,955 and $34,400. The top end of the line is more than double the price of the bottom end. It looks like Shelby is just following the rest of the industry as far as pricing goes.

I don't believe in another 60 years, hot rod makers will say "nothing rides and performs like an Acura."

These hot rods are basic cars: fast gas engines, tubular frames, no fancy gizmos; they shouldn't cost $200K++, or $150K, or $80K.

In 1962, an original cobra was about $6-7K which equals to about $50-55K today. So $50K should get u into the driver's seat for a simple go fast fun hot rod.

It is simply nostalgia that these hot rod makers are selling, and I don't believe the X or Y car enthusiast generation has any connection to these hot rod shapes and will pay $200K out the showroom door for old car technology.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

I don't believe in another 60 years, hot rod makers will say "nothing rides and performs like an Acura."

These hot rods are basic cars: fast gas engines, tubular frames, no fancy gizmos; they shouldn't cost $200K++, or $150K, or $80K.

In 1962, an original cobra was about $6-7K which equals to about $50-55K today. So $50K should get u into the driver's seat for a simple go fast fun hot rod.

It is simply nostalgia that these hot rod makers are selling, and I don't believe the X or Y car enthusiast generation has any connection to these hot rod shapes and will pay $200K out the showroom door for old car technology.

I think you entirely missed my point about Honda and Acura. The point was taking the same basic platform and having the high end version cost about double what the entry level version is. And Shelby certainly has the entry level fiberglass bodied cars, as well as two different price points for aluminum bodied cars. So having the top end car cost twice as much as the entry level version is just following what other car manufacturers do.

And although there are expensive versions of Cobras, you can certainly find any number of fiberglass bodied replicas for a lot less than $80K. But if you are looking for an aluminum bodied car, you will have to spend more than $80K. And the more authentic you try to make an aluminum bodied replica, the more it will cost. And when it comes to Shelby, you are certainly paying a premium for the brand name. You can certainly build an aluminum bodied Kirkham for less than the Shelby.

[bret a ewing]

[quote=NewYorkGuy;1304921]I don't.........................
In 1962, an original cobra was about $6-7K which equals to about $50-55K today. So $50K should get u into the driver's seat for a simple go fast fun hot rod.........................

QUOTE]

Better check your math, in 1962 a base Corvette was $4038. $6-7k is 40% on top of that...........A lot of money in 1962.

As a comp: I know in 1961 my uncle bought his first home in the West End (good section) of Allentown. A new 1800 sqft all brick ranch single for $11,000.

[RodKnock]

BTW, Kirkham, who supplies the aluminum bodies to Shelby, offers their rollers starting at $80,000.

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

BTW, Kirkham, who supplies the aluminum bodies to Shelby, offers their rollers starting at $80,000.

Anyone ever compare the Kirkham substructure with a CSX4000? Are they essentially the same or is one more high-tech than the other?
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[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Anyone ever compare the Kirkham substructure with a CSX4000? Are they essentially the same or is one more high-tech than the other?
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Kirkham and Shelby rollers have no interchangeable parts (well, maybe the steering wheel). Just like HiTech CSX glass cars and SPF. They are different. It's a contract manufacturing agreement built to manufacturer's specs. I leave "better" to your own personal views.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Kirkham and Shelby rollers have no interchangeable parts (well, maybe the steering wheel). Just like HiTech CSX glass cars and SPF. They are different. It's a contract manufacturing agreement built to manufacturer's specs. I leave "better" to your own personal views.

No. This has been discussed several times before. The Shelby CSX 4000/6000 frame as well as the Kirkham frames are all built so that they are completely compatible with original 1960s CSX 3000 suspension components. If you want to you can bolt a Kirkham billet aluminum suspension on to a CSX 3000, 4000 or 6000. Kirkham supplies Shelby strictly with an aluminum body on a frame and the only difference that Shelby specifies to Kirkham for the frame is a motor mount location that is different than an original CSX 3000. Shelby builds their car up from the Kirkham frame/body with Shelby sourced suspension, wire harness, seats, carpets, gauges, headlights, windshield, carpet, wheels, ..., etc.

Major things that differentiate an Aluminum Shelby CSX4000 roller from a Kirkham roller:
- Shelby is painted, Kirkham = bare aluminum filed finish with options for brushed or polished finish (if you want your Kirkham painted, you need to get someone other than Kirkham to do the painting)
- Shelby has original CSX3000 tube style suspension with Baer brakes, Kirkham has billet aluminum suspension with Wilwood brakes (Kirkham can has an expensive option for original style CSX3000 tube style suspension)
- Shelby has brand name with CSX 4000 serial number, Kirkham is their own brand with many cool ways to option out their cars.
- Shelby mostly assembled in Las Vegas (keep in mind aluminum bodied cars not fiberglass), Kirkham mostly assembled in Provo Utah. The only exception that I know of is the Shelby Aluminum bodied 50th anniversary cars for which the Kirkham body/frames were shipped from Poland to South Africa for assembly before going to Vegas.