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				12-20-2014, 09:28 AM
			
			
			
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				 Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay 
 
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 Their turnkey car with small block ford engine is $98,950.00.Untitled Page 
The roller version is $76,650.00.
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The ebay page says it is VIN #1.  Does anyone with that kind of money want to be the first customer?  Or would you prefer to go the safe route with a Kirkham instead?
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				12-20-2014, 12:16 PM
			
			
			
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 I went to their live feed cameras.  Here's a rip from a car currently being built.  The hip curves and rear don't look right.   
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				12-20-2014, 12:18 PM
			
			
			
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						NH Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C) 
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 I agree. Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ?
 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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						NH Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C) 
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 I do like the Porsche alloy car though. 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				12-20-2014, 03:04 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by 1985 CCX  Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ? |  Not a CSX or accurate otherwise. The closeup of the front shows a bevel or raised collar around the turn signal. Among other things. And that roll bar... 
I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate.
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				12-20-2014, 06:24 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by rodneym  I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate. |  ...missing love and passion...
				__________________Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
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				12-20-2014, 02:51 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by patrickt  I went to their live feed cameras.  Here's a rip from a car currently being built.  The hip curves and rear don't look right.    |  
Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.
				__________________Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
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				12-20-2014, 02:07 PM
			
			
			
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 Wasn't there a guy who worked for this place putting out "if I build it would you buy it" feelers a while ago? 
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 Still not bad looking 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				12-20-2014, 04:43 PM
			
			
			
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						SC Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible 
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					Originally Posted by Bill D  Still not bad looking |  But not worth the asking price for what it is vs what a comparable Kirkham cost.
 
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				12-21-2014, 05:49 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by mrmustang  But not worth the asking price for what it is vs what a comparable Kirkham cost.
 
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The rear trunk hinges even cry out "FFR".
 
Seems like they didn't spend much time studying Cobras nor do they care if as someone above noted they just used some "unnamed" replica body as a guide. The shapes are all wrong which appears to be just slapped on a ffr chassis? $96 k? Really? Well I guess one of their buyers are born every minute.
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 From the ebay add:  
Please note the picture is flipped.  Goodyear lettering on tires is flipped.  The gas cap is on the wrong side of the car for both England as well as the USA.
 
Now here is the image flipped back.  Note how much easier it is to read Goodyear on the tires.
   
Some observations:  Hood scoop, rear fender lips, front fender flares, oil  cooler scoop, headlight support area, all look very different in the photos of the uncompleted car in the ebay ad photos vs. the above photos.  Logo on the front hub cap looks very familiar.  Exhaust system is also very unique to Kirkham Motorsports.  
 
I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports			 Last edited by Tom Kirkham; 12-20-2014 at 07:20 PM..
 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
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				12-21-2014, 12:30 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham  I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports
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				12-21-2014, 01:05 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Dimis  Well more importantly, this is news to me... |  Keep up.    
Tom hasn't worked for KMS for quite some time now. If I recall correctly, he was working on an off-road vehicle project with some very trick suspension.
 
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				12-20-2014, 08:38 PM
			
			
			
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 The company is Alloycars Inc. I'm familiar with them and their 550 Spyder. It is extremely accurate, even down to the rivet pattern on body panels. Original factory drawings were used to build the replica. It's very nice and very accurate!  
As for the Cobra replica though, I don't know anything about it. 
Alloycars Porsche 550 Spyder aluminum replica / Kit Cars 
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 Forgot my disclaimer:I do not work for, nor have I ever worked for an Cobra replica manufacturer . The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of  this clubcobra.com member and do not necessarily reflect the  opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American,  any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company.   
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				12-20-2014, 09:16 PM
			
			
			
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 So search for them in the forum.   There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market.   I'd run away from this 
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					Originally Posted by twobjshelbys  So search for them in the forum.   There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market.   I'd run away from this |  I don't know about running away from them, since it looks like they are an established company with their Porche 550 replica.
 
However there are a number of things to consider: 
- Apparently they are selling their first Cobra replica and it is not finished yet, but they have pictures on their website of completed cars, which obviously is NOT their car.  I think David is being polite saying that the picture of the polished car from the eBay ad is probably a Kirkham.  That picture is clearly a finished Kirkham.  The picture of the blue car on their website looks like a FFR to me.  The black car looks like a CSX4000 in front of the Shelby Vegas building.
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- Their car is not as "authentic" as a Kirkham: 
-- Their frame is not authentic, like a Kirkham frame.  They are using a FFR frame. 
-- The hood scoop looks wrong. 
-- FFR style trunk hinges (as seen in live picture grabbed by patrickt) 
-- Rear wheel arches look odd in picture below (but that could just be the lighting?)
   
-- Headlights and oil  cooler scoop look a little odd to me (maybe its just the focal length of the lens used to take the picture?)
   
Let's think about value for dollar compared to a Kirkham roller: 
- This car has a solid rear axle standard versus Kirkham independent rear suspension. 
- This car has a FFR frame with presumably compatible suspension components from a Mustang (I guess) versus Kirkham with authentic frame, billet suspension, Wilwood brakes, etc. 
- What is the finish on this car (painted?, filed?, brushed?, polished?) for their price versus we know the prices for a Kirkham for filed, brushed or polished.
 
There is not enough detail from their website to really figure out yet what their car is worth compared to what we know gets delivered by Kirkham.			 Last edited by 1ntCobra; 12-21-2014 at 04:53 AM..
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				12-21-2014, 06:08 AM
			
			
			
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