How do you answer, "Is it real?"

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes, any comment that disagrees with yours is considered "stupid." Of course.

My witty comeback is that anyone that thinks his post-1967 Shelby Cobra is a real Shelby Cobra has paid a large premium for a car that he/she believes has more value than any other replica just because of the Shelby name. I'm not buying the marketing "hype." Nor do I think they're "real."

The bottom line is that Shelby didn't want to call them replicas, so he came up with another name. It's right there in the 2008 Shelby World Registry. And one of the world's foremost Cobra experts states that the modern Shelbys are replicas.

If you read the old 64-page thread, then there's several posts where we discuss examples of companies reproducing items, such as watches for example, that are replicas of their original version.

30-40-50 years later, your Shelby Cobra replica uses completely different parts and materials, 1960's versus 2010's, and body too, it's a replica of the original real Shelby Cobra. And it's delivered incomplete. Engine, transmission, alignment, exhaust, etc. to be purchased and/or installed by owner. Just like the 1960's.

As I said, you can call it a real Shelby Cobra, you more than welcome to cling to that "religion." What do I care. But I, and at least Ned Scudder, know your Shelby is a replica.

For me, I wouldn't pay any premium for a Shelby. Buy a Kirkham, keep the Shelby badges. And if you own a fiberglass Shelby, then, well, er, uh, moving on now. (We all know Shelby never made a fiberglass Cobra in the 1960's)

your "witty comeback" is not witty, its annoying and stupid. I'm done wasting my bandwidth debating this topic with someone who likes to see himself be a TROLL. Im done. And we dont care what you think, its obvious with all the replys here, go ahead a re-read your 65 page post.. have fun.

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

your "witty comeback" is not witty, its annoying and stupid. I'm done wasting my bandwidth debating this topic with someone who likes to see himself be a TROLL. Im done. And we dont care what you think, its obvious with all the replys here, go ahead a re-read your 65 page post.. have fun.

RodKnock, I think you struck a nerve.

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by ERA 626

your "witty comeback" is not witty, its annoying and stupid. I'm done wasting my bandwidth debating this topic with someone who likes to see himself be a TROLL. Im done. And we dont care what you think, its obvious with all the replys here, go ahead a re-read your 65 page post.. have fun.

Does Evan have a son?

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by jhv48

Does Evan have a son?

I don't mind having an intelligent conversation with some one, but when some one says" a Shelby is a replica of a Shelby" that's just plain stupid.

I have said many times in this thread, I have much respect for the top shelf replicas, I owned one for 17 years and loved it. Peter P and David Kirkham are the best as it gets as representatives in the hobby that we all love here.

If it has a CSX Vin# made by HST/Hi-tech, its a Shelby. FACT. is it original? NO. it is a continuation of the Shelby from the 60's FACT.

Are they better? that's a complete different topic

[Buzz]

Hi-Tech builds the cars by contractual arrangement and ships them to Shelby for finishing, branding and selling. Essentially the same as the relationship Shelby had with AC in the 60's.
Having said that though, when the hoi polloi yell "Is it real?", 100% of them are asking if its an original from the sixties that's worth a small fortune.
So unless you're actually driving one of those, the only correct answer is "No."

EDIT: I suppose if you're driving a modern day Shelby Cobra, and you're in a conversational mood - you could say yes, but it's not an original from the sixties. Problem with that is, half the time they'll mutter "kit car" in a derogatory tone and walk away disgusted.

[Blue66]

Didn't Shelby buy original Cobra's as "rollers" in the 60's from AC in England ? Winter is here !

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by Blue66

Didn't Shelby buy original Cobra's as "rollers" in the 60's from AC in England ? Winter is here !

And we’re off to another 10 pages of discussion.
At least the discussion is being kept civil.
Not like a couple of years ago.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by jhv48

And we’re off to another 10 pages of discussion.

It's only thing keeping this site alive

[t walgamuth]

Originally Posted by Blue66

Didn't Shelby buy original Cobra's as "rollers" in the 60's from AC in England ? Winter is here !

That is my understanding.

[ERA 626]

Originally Posted by Buzz

Hi-Tech builds the cars by contractual arrangement and ships them to Shelby for finishing, branding and selling. Essentially the same as the relationship Shelby had with AC in the 60's.
Having said that though, when the hoi polloi yell "Is it real?", 100% of them are asking if its an original from the sixties that's worth a small fortune.
So unless you're actually driving one of those, the only correct answer is "No."

EDIT: I suppose if you're driving a modern day Shelby Cobra, and you're in a conversational mood - you could say yes, but it's not an original from the sixties. Problem with that is, half the time they'll mutter "kit car" in a derogatory tone and walk away disgusted.

When people ask "is it real"? When I owned my ERA i said" its a real ERA" with a confused look they say OK.

Now when asked "is it real"? I say its a real Shelby, most people have no clue on the history of these cars and most do not know the difference between a cheap kit car vs. a top shelf replica. If Im in a chat mood Ill chat about it, otherwise "yes its a real ERA" or "yes its a real Shelby"

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by jhv48

does evan have a son?

:lol::lol::lol: