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08-06-2008, 09:13 AM
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08-06-2008, 09:35 AM
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Steve:
Until you mentioned in your reply, I had not seen any reference to the new regulations effective as of August 1.
I will be in contact with Dave at the 4C's ( CT Council of Car Clubs ) , he actively participated in the initial emissions exemption obtained in 2007 for Composites. The 4C's have a paid lobbyist that monitors DMV laws and regulations. Also, their recent newsletter did not mention any changes.
Similar to 2007, there was a DMV Bill passed in 2008 which encompasses all the updates etc.
I did not research the active Composite registrations at 2007 year end, but with approx 300 to 330 at 2006 year end, out of over 3,000,000 + passenger car registrations, good question as what prompted the new regulations.
Don
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08-07-2008, 06:32 AM
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Update:
** Neither the 4C's ( Dave ) or their legislative monitor are aware of any legislative action. It appears, to be verified, the emission hardware requirement was an Administrative action step and the 4C's along with the legislative monitor will be contacting the DMV to obtain additional information etc., etc., Their DMV contacts are not available this week. Goal will be to have the new regulation rescinded.
** Jay from Vintage Motorsports will be in contact with the Lt that heads up the DMV Inspection Unit
** Peter and Bob at ERA have been advised of the new requirements.
With the 4C's & Jay making inquiries, it has been suggested there is no other communication with the initial sponsor of the emissions exemption , Rep Janowski , or the General Assembly Transportation Committee
Steve......could you update the Factory Five forum with the above....thanks
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08-07-2008, 05:03 PM
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I wanted to advise everyone regarding the initial inquiry even though additional reviews are still underway. The CT DMV indicates that Federal EPA regulations state the emission hardware needs to be in place even though the vehicle is exempted from emission testing. In essence, the provision in the CT General Assembly DMV Bill passed in 2007 only exempted the testing, not the installation of the required hardware, which is stated as mandatory by the Fed EPA.
Does anyone have any factual info on the Federal EPA regulations for the above and/or are aware of any other states that exempt emission testing without requiring the installation of the emission systems/hardware ?
I contacted Dan Jalbert in the DMV Emissions Division and asked the following:
I just became aware of the new Composite Emission requirements, excerpt
below. Would appreciate being advised on the background and intent
behind the new regulations, since it appears the Composite Emission
Exemption passed by the General Assembly in 2007 is still
valid.
Dan's reply
From: "Jalbert, Dan" <Dan.Jalbert@ct.gov>
Date: August 7, 2008 1:04:10 PM EDT
Subject: RE: Composite Emissions Requirements: August 1
Hi Don
I Tried to contact our Chief Engineer Harry Gough regarding your
questions but he is out of the office, I can tell you EPA sets
guidelines for states to follow with regards to exempting vehicles
from emissions testing,and states have to follow up with
certain requirements for exempting those vehicles from emissions
testing.
As you are aware composite vehicles are still exempt from emissions
testing,just the inspection requirements have been updated.
I hope this will help.
Sincerely
Dan Jalbert
DMV Emissions Division
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Last edited by Don; 08-07-2008 at 05:06 PM..
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