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09-02-2015, 04:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
I've been searching for a better adjective to describe the Shelby cars. CS called them "continuation" but I think "genuine" might be better. It's easier to describe it as still being manufactured by Shelby American, but a modern instantiation.
I read the court's opinion a long time ago and while the judge used the term "kit" I did not see a definition of the term. A lot of people use the term and when I ask them to define it they all think the car arrived in boxes and had to be fully assembled. Then try to describe "finished roller".
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"Genuine" is terrible adjective to describe the Shelby Cobra replica.
According to the SAAC Registry, I own a "genuine" Cobra, but while Evan's was produced by Shelby, my "genuine" Cobra was produced by Kirkham. See the Registry under Kirkham Cobra. Neither Cobra is "genuine" or authentic. Ned Scudder is the SAAC Cobra Registrar for GENUINE (no quotation marks) Cobras (i.e., 1960's 2000 and 3000 series Cobras).
It's just word play. Seriously, they're all just replicas. And SAAC should "disconnect" themselves from keeping track of anything not built in the 1960's.
As for the difference between "kit" or "finished roller", it's just more word play, or semantics. A "finished roller" is a "kit", because you still have to buy and install an engine and transmission and a bunch of other little parts to get the thing running and driving properly.
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09-02-2015, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
"Genuine" is terrible adjective to describe the Shelby Cobra replica.
According to the SAAC Registry, I own a "genuine" Cobra, but while Evan's was produced by Shelby, my "genuine" Cobra was produced by Kirkham. See the Registry under Kirkham Cobra. Neither Cobra is "genuine" or authentic. Ned Scudder is the SAAC Cobra Registrar for GENUINE (no quotation marks) Cobras (i.e., 1960's 2000 and 3000 series Cobras).
It's just word play. Seriously, they're all just replicas. And SAAC should "disconnect" themselves from keeping track of anything not built in the 1960's.
As for the difference between "kit" or "finished roller", it's just more word play, or semantics. A "finished roller" is a "kit", because you still have to buy and install an engine and transmission and a bunch of other little parts to get the thing running and driving properly.
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First, while Ned is an expert on original cars that doesn't give him the ability to change facts and ongoing history. Sorry. Secondly, while Ned is entitled to his own personal opinions on the continuation cars the fact is he is not speaking on behalf of SAAC here. His personal opinion does not invalidate the official position of SAAC as set forth in the Registry and even if his singular personal opinion were at odds with what's in the Registry and I wouldn't be surprised if he voiced a position at committee meetings it was obviously overruled by the other committee members. The official position is in black and white. Of course you don't like it and continue to set forth your opinions about the "wording" as "unfair", wrong, misguided etc..etc..twisting yourself into a pretzel with twisted arguments and logic to debunk the Registry.
See your opinion/position means nothing and carries 0 weight with anyone but you and those who don't own Shleby Cobras who feel better about what they own by bringing down what someone else owns. Yuck.
The World Registry of Cobras & GT40s on the other hand is a world recognized and respected authoritative text.
Maybe you should write them a strongly worded letter. 
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Last edited by REAL 1; 09-02-2015 at 07:31 PM..
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09-02-2015, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
First, while Ned is an expert on original cars that doesn't give him the ability to change facts and ongoing history. Sorry. Secondly, while Ned is entitled to his own personal opinions on the continuation cars the fact is he is not speaking on behalf of SAAC here. His personal opinion does not invalidate the official position of SAAC as set forth in the Registry and even if his singular personal opinion were at odds with what's in the Registry and I wouldn't be surprised if he voiced a position at committee meetings it was obviously overruled by the other committee members. The official position is in black and white. Of course you don't like it and continue to set forth your opinions about the "wording" as "unfair", wrong, misguided etc..etc..twisting yourself into a pretzel with twisted arguments and logic to debunk the Registry.
See your opinion/position means nothing and carries 0 weight with anyone but you and those who don't own Shleby Cobras who feel better about what they own by bringing down what someone else owns. Yuck.
The World Registry of Cobras & GT40s on the other hand is a world recognized and respected authoritative text.
Maybe you should write them a strongly worded letter. 
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Page after page, that's what I'm trying to do here ("writing strongly worded letter"), if you didn't notice. Pretty stealthy huh?
Blah, blah, blah.....replica, blah, blah, blah.....replica. Ned, you and I all agree on that fact (you own a Shelby Cobra replica). That's I'll care about. And I'm sure there are many others who agree with that fact as well.
Yours truly,
RodKnock
Last edited by RodKnock; 09-02-2015 at 11:03 PM..
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09-03-2015, 05:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Page after page, that's what I'm trying to do here ("writing strongly worded letter"), if you didn't notice. Pretty stealthy huh?
Blah, blah, blah.....replica, blah, blah, blah.....replica. Ned, you and I all agree on that fact (you own a Shelby Cobra replica). That's I'll care about. And I'm sure there are many others who agree with that fact as well.
Yours truly,
RodKnock
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So that's the problem. Must be some type of dyslexic condition that converts factual and logical information in your old brain into "blah, blah, blah" .
There got to be medication for that! Please see a doctor my friend.
 
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09-03-2015, 12:00 AM
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Location: Adelaide,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
..... those who don't own Shleby Cobras.....
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Ahh, the penny has finally dropped 
You're talking about a real Shleby Cobra!
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09-03-2015, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Originally Posted by xb-60
Ahh, the penny has finally dropped 
You're talking about a real Shleby Cobra!
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Yes, like The one in my Garage. Haven't you been following along? Man you guys can be dense! 
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Last edited by REAL 1; 09-03-2015 at 05:41 AM..
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09-03-2015, 06:03 AM
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Yup, sh!t has not changed in over ten years.
I agree with Mrmustang - this horse has been beaten.
As Ron said several years ago - this is a two bagger. Hot buttered and a dash of salt.

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