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09-01-2015, 07:22 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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The original Shelby cars created/changed motor racing history.
A Rolex just tells time.
Apples to cranberries.
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09-01-2015, 09:01 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Do I have to teach you guys what an analogy is? Sheesh 
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09-01-2015, 09:03 AM
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JoesGarage: you never told us what Shelby related vehicle you own..?
Waiting.
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09-01-2015, 09:14 AM
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Analogy; a comparison of two things based on their being alike in some way.
Stretching it somewhat!
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09-01-2015, 09:28 AM
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Rolex does their manufacturing in house, from movements to crystals.
SAI farms their cars out of house, bumper to bumper.
having a license plate "Real 1" on a replica Cobra is misleading Joe Public
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09-01-2015, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
Rolex does their manufacturing in house, from movements to crystals.
SAI farms their cars out of house, bumper to bumper.
having a license plate "Real 1" on a replica Cobra is misleading Joe Public
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Uh oh! I usually try to tickle the bear, not poke it with a sharp stick!
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09-01-2015, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Do I have to teach you guys what an analogy is? Sheesh |
Evan, you see, here's where you get off track. You elevate yourself above others, insult others and their intelligence, and that's just not nice. Please try to stick with the subject matter.
Whether we use Rolex watches, Indian motorcycles, Kirkham Cobras, etc. to compare with the Shelby Cobra, the answer is still the same. The Shelby Cobras built after 1967-1968 are all just replicas of the originals. The dashboard materials are different, the aluminum is different, wiring, brakes, suspension, differentials, glass, hardware, all different, etc. They just happen to be built by a successor company with the same or similar name. Shelby. Shelby had a marketing meeting and decided to use the term "Continuation" instead of "true replicas."
I think the really important question here, which you brought to the forefront is whether I would buy a 2nd Kirkham, if Kirkham ceased production for 30 years, and then began building replicas of replicas. 
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09-01-2015, 09:50 AM
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My issue with this is that it usually comes from a guy with a, let's say, a tri-five chevy. New after-market frame, suspension, motor, brakes, suspension, interior, power windows, etc. Isn't your car a "kit car" too??!!!
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09-01-2015, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvin
My issue with this is that it usually comes from a guy with a, let's say, a tri-five chevy. New after-market frame, suspension, motor, brakes, suspension, interior, power windows, etc. Isn't your car a "kit car" too??!!!
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But at least the original metal body from the mid-1950's is still being used. The aluminum from the 1960's is not the same as the modern aluminum circa late 1990's thru today. In fact, Kirkham uses aluminum that is thicker than the originals (0.059" versus 0.050").
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09-01-2015, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
Rolex does their manufacturing in house, from movements to crystals.
SAI farms their cars out of house, bumper to bumper.
having a license plate "Real 1" on a replica Cobra is misleading Joe Public
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It's so obvious even a Nissan Leaf owner knows the difference. Wait, I meant to say bloody obvious, Evan thinks I'm a Brit 
Just think of all the people that see that plate and think WOW, and original 60's Cobra!!
Rest assured, I am not "intentionally" misleading anyone
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09-01-2015, 12:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
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I say I made it..........................
Replica made by me...... Scratch
Then I say in the process a kit would have been a blessing. LOL
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09-01-2015, 01:04 PM
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Jeff,
A kit may have been a blessing but you can't argue with those results!
Me? If I had my druthers, I'd take an Exact Carbon (as a kit) and when I need help, I'd ask my pals at McCluskey.
Hmmmm... 
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09-01-2015, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
I say I made it..........................
Replica made by me...... Scratch
Then I say in the process a kit would have been a blessing. LOL
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And you did a beautiful job Jeff. Something no one can take away from you!
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09-01-2015, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arvin
My issue with this is that it usually comes from a guy with a, let's say, a tri-five chevy. New after-market frame, suspension, motor, brakes, suspension, interior, power windows, etc. Isn't your car a "kit car" too??!!!
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Wouldn't that be "hot rodding" a car ???  I have a 88 Mazda RX7. Buick Turbo V6, 200R4 trans and a Ford 8.8 rear. I tell people it was a joint effort between Buick/Mazda. Lots believe me I think  
Can't believe how upset guys are over a stupid old car 
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427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run
Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
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09-01-2015, 01:32 PM
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So Joe what do You have ???? You will like my plate #..."CSX-2" ... Ahh the net
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427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run
Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
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09-01-2015, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue66
Wouldn't that be "hot rodding" a car ??? I have a 88 Mazda RX7. Buick Turbo V6, 200R4 trans and a Ford 8.8 rear. I tell people it was a joint effort between Buick/Mazda. Lots believe me I think
Can't believe how upset guys are over a stupid old car |
Can you believe those rotary engine collector types?
If they have any question about lineage and authenticity, just show them your Rolex Submariner. That'll show them.  
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09-01-2015, 01:37 PM
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Me? If I had my druthers, I'd take an Exact Carbon (as a kit) and when I need help, I'd ask my pals at McCluskey.
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Well, the McCluskey connection and lineage may actually be more valuable than Shelby's today.
Seriously, Rodney, what the heck do you need with another Cobra?
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09-01-2015, 01:42 PM
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Well, the McCluskey connection and lineage may actually be more valuable than Shelby's today. |
A very good point Rodnock.
Still wondering why the whole hub-up has gone silent about the "original" 3000 series cars. Not trying to stray or jack this thread. We already have one for the subject, but things sure seem to have gone quiet.
Just sayin'....
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09-01-2015, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
A very good point Rodnock.
Still wondering why the whole hub-up has gone silent about the "original" 3000 series cars. Not trying to stray or jack this thread. We already have one for the subject, but things sure seem to have gone quiet.
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Once in a blue moon, I have them. A good point that is. 
I'm sure the Nissan Leaf Owners Association COB (Chairperson of the Board) will post a link to the auction, one of these days, and then we can argue about the fact that it has some unobtainium OEM starter switch, and THAT makes it a genuine Shelby Cobra circa 2015.
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09-01-2015, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
A very good point Rodnock.
Still wondering why the whole hub-up has gone silent about the "original" 3000 series cars. Not trying to stray or jack this thread. We already have one for the subject, but things sure seem to have gone quiet.
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BTW, have you gotten your "keister" off that dock in Seattle yet?
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