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08-28-2015, 06:16 AM
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Must be a slow week. Folks are dragging out the old dead horses to beat on them for a while longer. ... My two cents are that if Shelby authorized it and put his name on it, it must be better and worth more than some other car that looks like it and performs as well or better. Here's proof:

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08-28-2015, 06:47 AM
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Just like the little cars fro the 60s he put his name on, or the Mustangs.
Some are worth more than others.
Don't know what those wagons go for but I'll bet a Shelby version will bring more than a non Shelby. 
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08-28-2015, 07:01 AM
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just like the little cars fro the 60s he put his name on, or the mustangs.
Some are worth more than others.
Don't know what those wagons go for but i'll bet a shelby version will bring more than a non shelby. 
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x2.. :d
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08-28-2015, 07:13 AM
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Mines not on the road yet, but after all this debate I might be getting personalized plates that read: fake 1. And put some stickers on it that say experimental. Like one of, ultralight aircraft. Maybe make up some business cards explaining the whole kit thing. 
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08-28-2015, 08:22 AM
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Is this old thread resurrection month?
I have to wonder though - is Shelby's chili mix worth more than non-Shelby chili mixes? Or does it just make you "go" faster?

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08-28-2015, 02:02 PM
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Is this old thread resurrection month?
I have to wonder though - is Shelby's chili mix worth more than non-Shelby chili mixes? Or does it just make you "go" faster?

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I don't know about his chili being worth more than other chilli but his cars are usually worth more than other similar cars.
BTW: Can you still get Shelby's Chili? I would like to try it. That is if it doesn't cost to much. 
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08-29-2015, 09:04 AM
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I don't know about his chili being worth more than other chilli but his cars are usually worth more than other similar cars.
BTW: Can you still get Shelby's Chili? I would like to try it. That is if it doesn't cost to much. 
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My recollection is that it went out of production in 2001. Owners were unable to pass the stringent new emissions regulations.
BTW - note that even though it's made by Shelby, the Old Man himself acknowledged that it was a kit - says so right on the label 
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08-29-2015, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
I don't know about his chili being worth more than other chilli but his cars are usually worth more than other similar cars.
BTW: Can you still get Shelby's Chili? I would like to try it. That is if it doesn't cost to much. 
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I bought Shelby's Chili mix a few years ago and tried it. Lots of heat, decent but not spectacular flavour. IMO it was over-hyped, over-rated and over-priced for what it was, and there were better choices.
I'll leave it to others to draw analogies...
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08-28-2015, 05:11 PM
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Is this old thread resurrection month?
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Yes, I regurgitated this on purpose. In the other regurgitated thread, I mentioned that I would find an old thread and make a random comment in it. I ended up grabbing this classic that was still open (most of these diatribes are closed). But I ended up not posting a random question (as was done to restart the other thread), but just decided to give this one a sarcastic post to see what would happen.
I was pleased to see that it sat quietly for 2-1/2 days. It really was surprising to see that everyone was able to hold their tongues. But alas, it was not to be.
One of these days there will be a national "Is it real" conference. We will all get together face-to-face and hammer this out. Then an official publication will come out that will declare the official responses approved by the Is It Real committee. There will be training videos showing you how to respond and also followup responses depending upon what the comeback is from the inquirer.
Local chapters will be formed to adjust the responses to the local vernacular. The local chapters will have workshops where people can practice their answers in real-world situations.
Finally, there will be tests at random car meets where we will send in secret is-it-real testers who will go up to fake Cobras and ask them "Is it real?" and record their responses.
....and all I'm drinking is a soda water.
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08-29-2015, 06:52 AM
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Don't need that. We already have the SAAC World Registry of Cobras & GT40s. It's already been dealt with. Highly recommend you buy one.
My responses are dictated by that authoritative text so I don't need to hammer anything out. I'm good thanks.
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08-29-2015, 10:04 AM
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Don't need that. We already have the SAAC World Registry of Cobras & GT40s. It's already been dealt with. Highly recommend you buy one.
My responses are dictated by that authoritative text so I don't need to hammer anything out. I'm good thanks.
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That is precisely why we have to have the conference. As one of our members, you are presenting only part of the data. The registry is a special-interest publication. It is written by and for a specific group with specific interests. We can hardly consider it as un-biased testimony on the matter.
We also have the court ruling, which you never mention. Three judges, having no interest whatsoever in the matter, clearly stated that the non-60's Shelby Cobras are kit cars.
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08-29-2015, 07:47 AM
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Yes, I regurgitated this on purpose. In the other regurgitated thread, I mentioned that I would find an old thread and make a random comment in it. I ended up grabbing this classic that was still open (most of these diatribes are closed). But I ended up not posting a random question (as was done to restart the other thread), but just decided to give this one a sarcastic post to see what would happen.
I was pleased to see that it sat quietly for 2-1/2 days. It really was surprising to see that everyone was able to hold their tongues. But alas, it was not to be.
One of these days there will be a national "Is it real" conference. We will all get together face-to-face and hammer this out. Then an official publication will come out that will declare the official responses approved by the Is It Real committee. There will be training videos showing you how to respond and also followup responses depending upon what the comeback is from the inquirer.
Local chapters will be formed to adjust the responses to the local vernacular. The local chapters will have workshops where people can practice their answers in real-world situations.
Finally, there will be tests at random car meets where we will send in secret is-it-real testers who will go up to fake Cobras and ask them "Is it real?" and record their responses.
....and all I'm drinking is a soda water.
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I love it!!! We can call the publication
SAACK
THE NUTS & BOLTS OF DEALING WITH KIT KAR KWESTIONS
101 BALLSY COMEBACKS INSIDE!!
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08-29-2015, 08:35 AM
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,,,The answer is 'It is a kit car'. I know you don't think so, but if it isn't a 196x Cobra, it is a kit car; at least in the eyes of the person that is asking (this includes Shelby continuation cars per judges Rogers, Walsh and Bergsman),,,
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Say it isn't so!!
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,,,Finally, there will be tests at random car meets where we will send in secret is-it-real testers who will go up to fake Cobras and ask them "Is it real?" and record their responses,,,
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You'll need about 30 minutes to record Evan's response, do your best to contain the laughter, thank you.
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08-29-2015, 12:30 PM
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Say it isn't so!!
You'll need about 30 minutes to record Evan's response, do your best to contain the laughter, thank you.
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Please enlighten me as to what was funny with regard to anything I have said. I could use a good laugh.  Wait... Maybe it was the total debunking of your effort to totally minimize Shelby's primary role in the creation of the cobra and to elevate ACs work beyond what it actually was in the creation of the Cobra. That was actually funny. 
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08-28-2015, 09:45 AM
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Don't know what those wagons go for but I'll bet a Shelby version will bring more than a non Shelby. 
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I'm guessing you bet about $30,000 that what you believe is true. That must be why you spend so much effort here protecting your investment.
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08-28-2015, 01:59 PM
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I'm guessing you bet about $30,000 that what you believe is true. That must be why you spend so much effort here protecting your investment.
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In case you haven't noticed I am severely outnumbered here last I checked so I doubt any effort to protect my investment would be effective even if my efforts had anything to do with it. The market has done the protecting for me. I'm just here to make sure there is a voice for accuracy and fairness. Someone's got to do it. 
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08-28-2015, 02:49 PM
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I'm just here to make sure there is a voice for accuracy and fairness.
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Only if you consider opinions "accuracy." 
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08-28-2015, 03:42 PM
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I for the most part stick to facts but my opinions are also correct. 
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08-28-2015, 03:55 PM
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I for the most part stick to facts but my opinions are also correct. 
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Uh huh. Sure.
Time for the orderly to give you your medicine. 
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08-28-2015, 10:48 AM
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