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Old 09-01-2015, 04:27 PM
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Rodney, thanks for mentioning one other difference between the original Shelby Cobra and the modern Shelby Cobra replica, and that is a BUYER MUST COMPLETE his or her own Cobra since US laws prohibit selling them as a completed (by manufacturer or dealer, at least here in CA) and license-able vehicle today. And why the "Competition" series aka Resurrection Cobras must be sold as off road vehicles.

Talking watches puts me quickly asleep, but I have a question for you watch enthusiasts. When Rolex's are sold today, do Rolex buyers take the watch body or chassis and band back to their houses and then the Rolex buyers install the "movement and crystals" at home?

Lastly, I'm not questioning the continuity of the Shelby Cobra replica, since there was a gap in production from 1967 to 1996 or thereabouts. That doesn't meet the definition of continuity. What I'm questioning is the pedigree or lineage, since the company, employees, the building and sales, registration and licensing process(es), parts, etc. aren't the same as what was used in the 1960's.
Again, since you are not questioning the "continuity" of SAI (wisely) in the whole equation lets just say hypothetically SAI never closed down and they kept making Cobras over time or lets say they stopped production and made wheel chairs for 20 years and then went back to Cobras but suppliers and employees changed over time to what they are today. The cars coming from SAI in 1996 to present are not Shelby Cobras?

Come on. There is only one logical answer to that one.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:45 PM
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Again, since you are not questioning the "continuity" of SAI (wisely) in the whole equation lets just say hypothetically SAI never closed down and they kept making Cobras over time or lets say they stopped production and made wheel chairs for 20 years and then went back to Cobras but suppliers and employees changed over time to what they are today. The cars coming from SAI in 1996 to present are not Shelby Cobras?

Come on. There is only one logical answer to that one.
There is one logical answer and that is the modern Shelby is a replica.

Your hypothetical doesn't work for two reasons. One, laws changed and cars changed. Today's Porsche and Corvette look nothing like their vintage brethren. And two, using your hypothetical, materials and processes changed. Kirkham can make an aluminum body in about 15 minutes or so, whereas in the 1960's, it probably took them a month to produce a Cobra's aluminum body (I have no clue, just making it up as I go along ). And the aluminum's metalurgy has changed over the last 30-50 years.

Even when I was interested in magnesium wheels for my Kirkham and checked with a company back East (I forget, maybe Rodney knows the name of Fran's manufacturer) that made magnesium wheels, they said the magnesium had changed over the last 50 years and it's different (allegedly better).

Face it. You own one of Earth's Best Genuine Shelby Cobra replicas.
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:52 PM
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:55 PM
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Again, since you are not questioning the "continuity" of SAI (wisely)...
Huh? Wha? What continuity are we talking about? Shelby didn't make a Cobra for at least 30 years. Is that "continuity"?

Maybe we should use a dog's pedigree now as an analogy for Shelby's replicas. Are the dog's bloodlines the same, when they go extinct, and then 30 years later, a breeder decides to breed the same dog again? And they have every chromosome exactly the same. I think they would call those new REPLICA dogs "clones" or something.
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