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06-10-2014, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
The sales guy for Shelby hasn't sold 1 50th Anniversary Cobra 289. What proof do u have that there is a demand?
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The sales guy at Shelby wouldn't sell any. They have to be purchased through an authorized dealer. If by "sales guy" you meant Becker, he is only one of many dealers. I know for a fact several, if not all, have been sold.
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06-10-2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Al G
The sales guy at Shelby wouldn't sell any. They have to be purchased through an authorized dealer. If by "sales guy" you meant Becker, he is only one of many dealers. I know for a fact several, if not all, have been sold.
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Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..
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06-10-2014, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stephen_becker
Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..
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Now just where in the hell do you think you are that you think you can get off using that kind of language around here?
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06-11-2014, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by stephen_becker
Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..
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That means they've sold 27. How is my statement wrong? I didn't claim they were all sold, just that they might be.
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06-10-2014, 01:53 PM
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Send a note to the moderator. 
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06-10-2014, 01:58 PM
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Accidentally bumped the like button on one of the Rolex/timex posts.
I quickly unliked it!!!
Why bothers wearing a watch these days?
Aren't your multi-purpose mobile phones able to do this? 
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06-10-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimis
Accidentally bumped the like button on one of the Rolex/timex posts.
I quickly unliked it!!!
Why bothers wearing a watch these days?
Aren't your multi-purpose mobile phones able to do this? 
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I agree with you. Don't you find that fancy watches are too blingy? 
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06-10-2014, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I agree with you. Don't you find that fancy watches are too blingy? 
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Hmmm...polished arruminum...some of us are more subtle with a brushed arruminum Kirkham. 
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06-10-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
I still use fountain pens and a written calendar...don't feel like rushing into the future too fast.
Why have a Cobra?
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It's a spartan thing... Less is more
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I agree with you. Don't you find that fancy watches are too blingy? 
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Exactly :lol:
The Irony is not lost on me...
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06-10-2014, 05:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
Accidentally bumped the like button on one of the Rolex/timex posts.
I quickly unliked it!!!
Why bothers wearing a watch these days?
Aren't your multi-purpose mobile phones able to do this? 
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It's jewelry for men. I only like mechanical watches and they are very complicated movements. Better than just a battery watch.
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06-10-2014, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by buddyg
It's jewelry for men. I only like mechanical watches and they are very complicated movements. Better than just a battery watch.
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these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.
Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?
"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"
The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.
Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.
I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.
I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.
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06-10-2014, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.
Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?
"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"
The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.
Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.
I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.
I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.
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You've repeated this identical description of your point of view several times. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Unless you have something new to say, don't say anything.
Thank you very much for your expected cooperation.
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06-10-2014, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamo
You've repeated this identical description of your point of view several times. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Unless you have something new to say, don't say anything.
Thank you very much for your expected cooperation.
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I was starting to think I was hearing a broken record too.
I'm not sure anyone on this thread has said that they thought that they would consider getting an SAI roller for $160K, but to say that no one here should pay more than $50K for a Cobra replica is kind of silly. In case NewYorkGuy has not noticed, several people on this thread have Kirkhams and I am sure they have paid more than $50K for them and are more than happy with their cars and don't seem to mind having paid as much as they did for their cars. Although a Kirkham can be considered to be a Cobra shaped hot hod, it is a very good replica and with some rather expensive options and rare NOS parts, a Kirkham could be made to be pretty much an exact copy of an original 1960's Cobra to the point where you would need a expert to tell it apart from an original. You cannot do that with an SPF, ERA, etc. To someone who wants to truly replicate the experience of an original without the spending the price of an original, it can be done with a Kirkham (or an aluminum body SAI), so I think it can be more than than just a Cobra shaped hot rod. However, the majority of Kirkham owners seem to be content with the standard roller that weighs hundreds of pounds less than an original and is cooler in many ways.
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06-10-2014, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.
Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?
"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"
The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.
Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.
I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.
I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.
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This statement is either made by someone who's a troll or delusional.
1. Our Cobra's are no more of a Cobra than your Nissan? Come on. Really? You truly believe that nonsense. That's just down right moronic or troll-like. And if you believed that nonsense, then why the F do you want to buy another Nissan shaped like a Cobra (just an entirely different shape)? Sorry, IMO, pure stupidity.
2. The SAAC World Registry, the "authoritiative" text that Evan uses/abuses, lists Kirkham's and actually calls them a Kirkham Cobra.
3. If the Cobra market crashes, then a) the stock, bond and real estate markets will have likely crashed too and b) there will be buyers for everything at a discount. Also, the markets have crashed regularly since 1929, where are prices today? If you're waiting for a $25,000 SPF, then you'll die an old man, who NEVER owned a Cobra.
4. "...what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra? "Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"
What's your thinking here? What are you saying? Please don't preach to others about educating their children. This is probably the worse statement you've uttered here on CC IMO. You're telling us how we should or shouldn't teach (values, no less) our children? Am I speaking to Arne Duncan, the U.S. Secretary of Education? Or did he resign and someone nominate you? Please just stop.
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06-11-2014, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
This statement is either made by someone who's a troll or delusional.
1. Our Cobra's are no more of a Cobra than your Nissan? Come on. Really? You truly believe that nonsense. That's just down right moronic or troll-like. And if you believed that nonsense, then why the F do you want to buy another Nissan shaped like a Cobra (just an entirely different shape)? Sorry, IMO, pure stupidity.
2. The SAAC World Registry, the "authoritiative" text that Evan uses/abuses, lists Kirkham's and actually calls them a Kirkham Cobra.
3. If the Cobra market crashes, then a) the stock, bond and real estate markets will have likely crashed too and b) there will be buyers for everything at a discount. Also, the markets have crashed regularly since 1929, where are prices today? If you're waiting for a $25,000 SPF, then you'll die an old man, who NEVER owned a Cobra.
4. "...what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra? "Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"
What's your thinking here? What are you saying? Please don't preach to others about educating their children. This is probably the worse statement you've uttered here on CC IMO. You're telling us how we should or shouldn't teach (values, no less) our children? Am I speaking to Arne Duncan, the U.S. Secretary of Education? Or did he resign and someone nominate you? Please just stop.
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I was going to respond to his nonsense but I agree with everything you said.
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06-10-2014, 02:03 PM
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I still use fountain pens and a written calendar...don't feel like rushing into the future too fast.
Why have a Cobra?
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06-10-2014, 02:05 PM
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Since the moderators have left the building, I'll just have to self-moderate this thread.
Here's a 2008 CSX4400, with 89 miles (2008? Sounds like me  ) asking $200K at Hillbank. But asking is not a selling price.
2008 Shelby CSX 427 SC for sale | Hemmings Motor News
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06-10-2014, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Since the moderators have left the building, I'll just have to self-moderate this thread.
Here's a 2008 CSX4400, with 89 miles (2008? Sounds like me  ) asking $200K at Hillbank. But asking is not a selling price.
2008 Shelby CSX 427 SC for sale | Hemmings Motor News
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Yup. Very nice car. Very hard to find an aluminum Continuation Cobra. Not nearly as detailed as mine or nice IMHO but still very nice.
Based on that my asking price for CSX4206 would be at least $240K if I were selling but I'm not. As noted I've had interest expressed for over $200K.
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06-10-2014, 02:49 PM
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Yup. Very nice car. Very hard to find an aluminum Continuation Cobra. Not nearly as detailed as mine or nice IMHO but still very nice.
Based on that my asking price for CSX4206 would be at least $240K if I were selling but I'm not. As noted I've had interest expressed for over $200K.
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Asking $40,000 more for a used Shelby Cobra with self-admitted road rash? That's Ripley's Believe-it-or-not territory. My Kirkham, which was "detailed" by noted Cobra Restorer Stewart Hall of Hall Fabrication, is on sale right now at $199,000. Please submit your offers now, before I change my mind.
Let me know when there's an actual published sale of any Shelby Cobra Continuation over $200K.
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06-10-2014, 02:55 PM
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Asking $40,000 more for a used Shelby Cobra with self-admitted road rash? That's Ripley's Believe-it-or-not territory. My Kirkham, which was "detailed" by noted Cobra Restorer Stewart Hall of Hall Fabrication, is on sale right now at $199,000. Please submit your offers now, before I change my mind.
Let me know when there's an actual published sale of any Shelby Cobra Continuation over $200K.
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Great points, hope the sale goes well...    
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