Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

Dam I've never been anal-iated by anyone, maybe because I'm in the lead and everyone far behind. lol Sorry I write all the time and make many mistakes and usually never proof read all my mistakes. lol annihilate. i think the good ole southern boys spell it analiate. lol

assolutely....

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by Jamo

assolutely....

Google it, it means exactly what it sounds like and that is what a GT will do to your Cobra

[BMK]

Real 1

I'm a bit naive to all of this "mines Real yours is not".....

But in Australia we call it a pissing competition - who can piss the further or the highest.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Google it, it means exactly what it sounds like and that is what a GT will do to your Cobra

Dude...I was supporting your terminology. Been using words to asspress assactly what I mean around here for the past decade.

I have assolutely no doubts what a GT would do to a Cobra at the track...maybe even yours.

Bernie...piss on you.

[BMK]

Mmmm Jamo - super moderator .... Now pissing on us underlings..

Hey send me that email address - will send you some Porn..

[Jamo]

I sent you my email address as soon as I got yours via CC. Check your PMs...I'll send it again.

As for the porn...sheep yes, roos no.

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by BMK

Real 1

I'm a bit naive to all of this "mines Real yours is not".....

But in Australia we call it a pissing competition - who can piss the further or the highest.

And in this case, the pissing is upwind.

But it's all a lot of fun. The arguments going around in circles year after year. Evan desperately hanging onto the registry while ignoring a federal judge's ruling; which called the continuation cobras 'replicas' and 'kits'. Others bringing up the original vs real vs replica over and over. It would be great if we could all meet in a bar somewhere and have this discussion live with lots of beer, whiskey, and peanuts.

[4pipes]

Paul, all you would get the next day is arguing with a hangover.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Google it, it means exactly what it sounds like and that is what a GT will do to your Cobra

As I learned from my mother every time I come across a word I am not aware of I look it up. I actually did in this case using yahoo and it didn't really show. Now checking google I am further insulted when seeing video game terminology, in addition to black-ops game. Doesn't anyone ever get out and do the real thing! I'll send trophy pics to anyone and retired USN(Special Warfare Command) and never heard this term. We retired sailors have such a choice vocab. #@*#!'s

Originally Posted by Jamo

Dude...I was supporting your terminology. Been using words to asspress assactly what I mean around here for the past decade.


I have assolutely no doubts what a GT would do to a Cobra at the track...maybe even yours.

Bernie...piss on you.

As Vincent price would say Eggactly!!

Originally Posted by Paul F

And in this case, the pissing is upwind.

But it's all a lot of fun. The arguments going around in circles year after year. Evan desperately hanging onto the registry while ignoring a federal judge's ruling; which called the continuation cobras 'replicas' and 'kits'. Others bringing up the original vs real vs replica over and over. It would be great if we could all meet in a bar somewhere and have this discussion live with lots of beer, whiskey, and peanuts.

Guys enjoy your rides. However don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.


And I don't drink!!

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by 4pipes

Paul, all you would get the next day is arguing with a hangover.

Yup!

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by 4pipes

Paul, all you would get the next day is arguing with a hangover.

... and make great friends and have a bunch of great memories (that's if you could remember anything from that night).

Oh, yes, and start the arguments all over again on the forum.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Paul F

... and make great friends and have a bunch of great memories (that's if you could remember anything from that night).

Oh, yes, and start the arguments all over again on the forum.

Yup again.

[fordracing65]

Sounds great, I'll buy the drinks since I saved about $100,00 buying a Kirkham over an Aluminum CSX kit...

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

As I learned from my mother every time I come across a word I am not aware of I look it up. I actually did in this case using yahoo and it didn't really show. Now checking google I am further insulted when seeing video game terminology, in addition to black-ops game. Doesn't anyone ever get out and do the real thing! I'll send trophy pics to anyone and retired USN(Special Warfare Command) and never heard this term. We retired sailors have such a choice vocab. #@*#!'s



As Vincent price would say Eggactly!!



Guys enjoy your rides. However don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.


And I don't drink!!

Explaining the term would involve very politically incorrect terminology these days and with NASA monitoring our emails and posts I am not that brave.
All in good fun though, and mostly targeted at REAL 1 and his obsession with replica Cobra's. Since he has a real GT and A replica Cobra I was thinking this might cause a dilemma for him but I underestimated his tenacity.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by Cobra #3170

Explaining the term would involve very politically incorrect terminology these days and with NASA monitoring our emails and posts I am not that brave.
All in good fun though, and mostly targeted at REAL 1 and his obsession with replica Cobra's. Since he has a real GT and A replica Cobra I was thinking this might cause a dilemma for him but I underestimated his tenacity.

It's all good, however NASA ws a front well sort of. Use what term you like cable, fiber optic, copper, ANY and ALL signals transmitted through all these mediums and signals through the airwaves are captured and recorded. and it ain't NASA. Just think how long the stealth fighter was hidden. I would say there's about a 25 year curve before some technology surfaces into the public domain. Some tech is literally light years away but just recently some is starting to surface.

We have huge cavernous spaces throughout the world(for the youngsters think raccoon cities) that we have been making for decades. We have equipment that literally melts the rock without the customary drilling and blasting. Large complexes are connected by high speed connections. This tech is starting to surface and talk of it is more common.

I won't go into how we are all suckers still using gasoline to fuel our vehicles.

[REAL 1]

No pissing contest here on my part. I just keep pointing to the Registry. Just pointing to the Registry definitions based on the facts that developed in the past 15 years. Clearly have things changed in the time since the originals were last produced. Clearly the bias here is clear voiced nearly completely by non Shelby owners and by those with original cars.

Why it is such an issue for them is beyond me. They clearly have their own axe to grind. Owners of original cars here I guess want their cars to the only Cobras recognized. Owners of replicas or kits as defined by the Registry perhaps out of envy or sour grapes get pleasure out of knocking and trying to bring down what they don't have.

If your own personal opinion is the tired and hackyned phrase "if it wasn't made in the 60's its not an "authentic"/genuine/real (use adjective of choice) Cobra thats fine. That's your personal and meaningless opinion to which you are absolutely entitled. I'm not trying to disabuse you of letting the official definitions and recognition by SAAC interfere with your opinion. You are clearly more well versed and knowledgable than those compiling the current edition of the World Registry. Carry on gentlemen.

CSX3170: No dilemma at all. Both are recognized in the Registry as genuine items for what they purport to be. Shelby Cobras of the continuation series and Ford GTs.

Paul F: I haven't read the full text of the opinion but even if the Federal Judge did say the Continuation series are replicas, this technically is correct based on the dictionary definition of replica or kit cars since and they were sold at one point in a kit to the end owner and even if shipped to dealers because of DOT regs can't be shipped as a completed vehicle. However, the Registry analyzyes how the term "replica" and "kit" have been misused in the public domain and misapplied by the public to all these cars except for the originals. I can understand why the judge might use those terms. I doubt he used those terms to set the definition of what these cars are and how they should be recognized since the issue in that case was trade dress and trade mark issues. I don't recall the issue of what is to be considered a genuine or real Cobra being at issue. Don't think it was. The issue as I recall was whether others besides Shelby could manufacture a car with the shape of Cobras and use the marks associated with them and name. Further, I doubt the Federal judge was an expert in these matters and I don't think he was looking to set the definitions of what is and is not a genuine Cobra. This issue I don't believe was before him.

Plus the fact that you are looking to rely on and cling to some passing dicta in an opinion you say appears in a decision (was it even a published decision setting precedent?) as opposed to a legal holding in an age old Federal opinion confirms my statement that had the Registry defined the Continuation Series as "replicas" and/or "kits" you and the other detractors would be "all over it" and consider the issue settled. However, since it didn't work out the way you guys wanted in the new Registry the sore losers continue the argument based on their own personal views.

Knocking the Continuation Series will not make your original more valuable nor will it make replicas/kits more valuable. Recognizing Continuation Cobras as authentic Cobras will not detract from your cars either whether original or replica (as defined in the registry). What it will accomplish is stopping you from looking petty and/or like you are suffering from sour grapes.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

No pissing contest here on my part. I just keep pointing to the Registry. Just pointing to the Registry definitions based on the facts that developed in the past 15 years. Clearly have things changed in the time since the originals were last produced. Clearly the bias here is clear voiced nearly completely by non Shelby owners and by those with original cars.

Why it is such an issue for them is beyond me. They clearly have their own axe to grind. Owners of original cars here I guess want their cars to the only Cobras recognized. Owners of replicas or kits as defined by the Registry perhaps out of envy or sour grapes get pleasure out of knocking and trying to bring down what they don't have.

If your own personal opinion is the tired and hackyned phrase "if it wasn't made in the 60's its not an "authentic"/genuine/real (use adjective of choice) Cobra thats fine. That's your personal and meaningless opinion to which you are absolutely entitled. I'm not trying to disabuse you of letting the official definitions and recognition by SAAC interfere with your opinion. You are clearly more well versed and knowledgable than those compiling the current edition of the World Registry. Carry on gentlemen.

CSX3170: No dilemma at all. Both are recognized in the Registry as genuine items for what they purport to be. Shelby Cobras of the continuation series and Ford GTs.

Paul F: I haven't read the full text of the opinion but even if the Federal Judge did say the Continuation series are replicas, this technically is correct based on the dictionary definition of replica or kit cars since and they were sold at one point in a kit to the end owner and even if shipped to dealers because of DOT regs can't be shipped as a completed vehicle. However, the Registry analyzyes how the term "replica" and "kit" have been misused in the public domain and misapplied by the public to all these cars except for the originals. I can understand why the judge might use those terms. I doubt he used those terms to set the definition of what these cars are and how they should be recognized since the issue in that case was trade dress and trade mark issues. I don't recall the issue of what is to be considered a genuine or real Cobra being at issue. Don't think it was. The issue as I recall was whether others besides Shelby could manufacture a car with the shape of Cobras and use the marks associated with them and name. Further, I doubt the Federal judge was an expert in these matters and I don't think he was looking to set the definitions of what is and is not a genuine Cobra. This issue I don't believe was before him.

Plus the fact that you are looking to rely on and cling to some passing dicta in an opinion you say appears in a decision (was it even a published decision setting precedent?) as opposed to a legal holding in an age old Federal opinion confirms my statement that had the Registry defined the Continuation Series as "replicas" and/or "kits" you and the other detractors would be "all over it" and consider the issue settled. However, since it didn't work out the way you guys wanted in the new Registry the sore losers continue the argument based on their own personal views.

Knocking the Continuation Series will not make your original more valuable nor will it make replicas/kits more valuable. Recognizing Continuation Cobras as authentic Cobras will not detract from your cars either whether original or replica (as defined in the registry). What it will accomplish is stopping you from looking petty and/or like you are suffering from sour grapes.

Copy of what I posted on the other thread.

It would be easier for all to post what you have. Continuation Cobra, Kirkham, ERA ...etc. Be happy with what you have. Just don't post Cobra.

OK I have a burning question to which I will start a thread on, however I'm probably a minority of one here on the following. I have always been interested in original automobiles and I use original as a generic term guys. Yes I know there are copies, replicas, kits(you pick the term) for a number of original autos. As far as a Cobra there is 260, 289, 427 Cobras, that's my viewpoint. I know probably a little about ERA and stallions then any other "copy". Now I actually have been learning about kirkham and Continuation(which I knew about) from this site and also getting some entertainment.

When I read a member's comment that I learn from or catches my eye I read the corner to see if they have an auto listed. Some of them I can not figure out to tell you the truth. Now with the above poster(not poser lol) when he states he has a Cobra then FOR ME it automatically means an original 1960's Cobra. I think the whole system stinks. I'm not blaming anyone but it stinks.

Please from now on everyone call it what it is Continuation Cobra, kirkham ERA...for this broken down old sailor I get confused so easily. And it's not fair if I have to write original Cobra all the time for the others.


Thank You

Actually there is a lot of information NOT in the registry. For those that compile and spend the time on said registry my hats off to you. I explained it on SAAC what happened decades ago and was my last post on that site. I see a few wise asses once in awhile but the same ole same ole was too much for me. When the leadership acts like an ass what is there to expect other than it runs downhill from the top.

If that was directed towards me meaningless I take offense and would wish you conduct yourself as if you were speaking to me in person.


Thank You

As I would say to you in person I've spilt blood for your freedom to post your words.

AKA StormBringer

[BMK]

Don't know about pissing into the wind.. but I am certainly pissing myself reading this....

Might just start a new Thread - Who makes the better Cobra? Or Was CS a good guy? Or ....

We get the television show "Person of interest" so I know you guys are all being watched..

[aks801]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

...and there are always those in the "peanut" gallery throwing their little stones. Many times fueled by petty envy.

Man, I was just about to toss in my biting commentary from the perspective of a non-owner, but this turned me away!!!

Hey, been off this site for about 6 months, this thread has been fantastic!

Motor on....

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by BMK

Don't know about pissing into the wind.. but I am certainly pissing myself reading this....

Might just start a new Thread - Who makes the better Cobra? Or Was CS a good guy? Or ....

We get the television show "Person of interest" so I know you guys are all being watched..

Do you want me to go into any particular direction? I am a multi-tasker.