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12-07-2021, 09:29 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Hmmmm the plot thickens
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12-06-2021, 02:45 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Carlsbad,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
Posts: 1,244
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12-06-2021, 05:29 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 13,152
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Are there any other CSX2xxx Cobras that have a history as convoluted and complicated as 2049's ??
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12-07-2021, 01:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60
Are there any other CSX2xxx Cobras that have a history as convoluted and complicated as 2049's ??
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yes, many...every time the parts and the papers went different ways after a car was wrecked...
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12-07-2021, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide,
SA
Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60
Are there any other CSX2xxx Cobras that have a history as convoluted and complicated as 2049's ??
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
yes, many...every time the parts and the papers went different ways after a car was wrecked...
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Yeah.... but this thread's gone zero to near f-i-v-e h-u-n-d-r-e-d !! posts in no time flat!
A record for an Introduction Forum post  ?
Last edited by xb-60; 12-07-2021 at 09:50 PM..
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12-08-2021, 01:07 PM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xb-60
Yeah.... but this thread's gone zero to near f-i-v-e h-u-n-d-r-e-d !! posts in no time flat!
A record for an Introduction Forum post  ?
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Hmm, I wonder who got post 500? 
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12-07-2021, 07:06 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I made some pics at SPA 2008 of one of the existing 2136 cars.
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12-07-2021, 07:10 AM
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Bit closer
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12-07-2021, 10:08 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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12-07-2021, 01:56 PM
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interesting, the accident was November 16, 1963…., why is the court document dated March 1967…???
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12-08-2021, 11:22 AM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CompClassics
I am still waiting for an answer as to why there is no bill of sale between Ann Abidin and Lanse Haselrig in the court documents?? There is a Promissory note for $400 that was always touted as a sales agreement but reading the back of the agreement it defines a completely different arrangement and defines why Al Abindin’s car is at Lanse’s shop in March of 1967.
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Interesting, so what is on the front side of the note?
From the back side of the note, it looks like Al Abidin wanted his car repaired. Is it possible that the Abidin family got sticker shock at the estimated repair cost and Hasselrig just offerred to buy the car from them to part out? In which case Hasselrig could have gotten the title legally?
Perhaps Al had put away some money over the 3 years to repair his Cobra, but then upon seeing the what the real repair cost would be, decided it would be far cheaper to buy another used Cobra or some other car.
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12-07-2021, 07:57 PM
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Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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There are still questions asked that have not been answered.
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12-08-2021, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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12-08-2021, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Quote:
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I’ll add another post as their are people on here that have issues with editing comments.
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Nothing at all wrong with editing comments as long as it's not done to change the narrative after people respond to the original post.
Read: Unscrupulous Modifiers And Other Evil Doers!!!
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12-08-2021, 12:00 PM
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Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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12-08-2021, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CompClassics
The front side of the note has any indication of a sale of 2049, it looks like Hasselrig May have obtained a $400 loan from Abidin. The note clearly states that the car belongs to Al Abidin and that Hasselrig is signing good the promissory note that he will repair it. There is no bill of sale and there is not paperwork in the court case that indicates a transfer of ownership has taken place.
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OK, so Hasselrig is borrowing $400 on March 8th and promising to fix "Al's car" on or prior to March 25th. If that is the case, I would think the "Al's car" that needs to be fixed is unlikely to be his Cobra. Unless someone with restoration or body shop experience might be able to verify that it would be possible to repair the Cobra in that shape in 17 days? Perhap Al's car was a another different car he damaged, maybe his Edsel Stationwagon, which just needed a new fender after the mishap backing out of the family garage.
It would seem that if Hasselrig was intending to repair the Cobra, he would not be borrowing $400 from Ann, but requiring a downpayment of many thousand dollars from the Abidin family to source a new body and many other items from either AC cars and/or SAI. And then waiting many months for delivery of the body to arrive from England.
Could it be that the Abidin family were using the opportunity for Hasselrig to buy the wrecked Cobra from them for $400 as an incentive to get Hasselrig to quickly repair Al's other car?
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12-08-2021, 03:26 PM
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Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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12-08-2021, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CompClassics
Why would Hasselrig have Al Abidin dying in the crash of 2049 at the Riverside crash in 1963? When in fact it was Paul Cunningham that died in the crash of 2049 a couple of months later at Willow Springs? Now we know Hasselrig promised to repair his car in 1967. As Ned had pointed out the photos dated March of 1967 was supposed to be when Hasselrig took possession of 2049 but in fact 2049 was being dropped off for repairs per the promissory note agreement. But then Al Abindin was supposedly dead already, but in fact Al Abidin did not die until 2014.
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The latest registry says that Al Abidin picked up the wreck from SAI and put it in storage.
Is there something in the court documents that said Al Abidin died in a crash in 1963? The first I heard of Al dying was when you mentioned it now. Could you show us a page from the court documents saying that?
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12-08-2021, 05:18 PM
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12-08-2021, 11:02 PM
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