Researching any info re: Paul Cunningham, Competition Cobra privateer - Page 21

sunman · #1 (**permalink**) 12-09-2021, 09:54 PM

Witness? California SCCA entry form determines who gets winnings and absolves track from liabilities.
There’s one for every race and with the people involved probably are accurate.
That would be a great friend to let you say it’s your Cobra and keep winnings too

Alfa02 · #2 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 04:59 AM

Hey guys since this picture shows Allen (Grant) racing with him, has anyone contacted Allen? I'm sure he knows nothing about ownership but may have some info.? He still has a few (cells) up there and may have something to add. We spoke at Thanksgiving and as usual went off topic and I forgot to ask him about the #37 Cobra. I will call him before
our Christmas call and ask this time

I know you (Jim? @ CompClassic) and Allen are good friends, have you two spoke about this car? Cheers TommyRot.

sunman · #3 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 08:02 AM

I’ve filed mechanics liens and obtained title to a dozen cars the first in 1971.
In a state as loose as Oklahoma (Title 42) you are required to submit a hard copy work order signed by the owner on record stating work to be preformed and cost estimate. You sign a notarized statement that all paperwork is true.
SAI can do whatever they want with abandoned cars but getting a title is a process with work orders, ads in legal section of news paper, certified letter to owner and an auction to recover bill due.

sunman · #4 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 08:34 AM

Nobody cares about your feelings Tony.
Paul lives forever on YouTube as an owner of 2049
Google it up
He’s in a movie with Jane Mansfield, Jill St. John, Steve McQueen racing Dave Allen and Shelby Cobras with all the top drivers too.
What a way to go

ZOERA-SC7XX · #5 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sunman

Nobody cares about your feelings Tony.
Paul lives forever on YouTube as an owner of 2049
Google it up
He’s in a movie with Jane Mansfield, Jill St. John, Steve McQueen racing Dave Allen and Shelby Cobras with all the top drivers too.
What a way to go

For what it's worth, I think the above statement has merits. Nothing can be proven except that CSX 2049 is an air-car, and forever will be. My advice to Michael at this point is to acquire a reasonable replica (maybe a bargain car) and paint it up as Paul's #37. Forget about a lawsuit, as only the lawyers make out there. We all know much of the story now and more people lurk than comment. This story is out there now, and won't be forgotten soon. Many bargain Cobras out there that may be affordable. Good Luck.
(PS). I recently completed a replica of my late uncle's 1964 championship modified stock car. The original has long been scrapped (but I do have the roof from the original). We can only do what we can do. You have educated us on the late Paul Cunningham. We feel your loss. Thank you, you can do no more.

sunman · #6 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 11:08 AM

What is Richard Wesselinks story about where he got the car?
He was on AC Owners 2011 looking for parts. “rwesselink”
Your backstory is kinda something we expect on forums.
How about somebody with a real AC contact him. He listed all his info.
I suggest the AC chassis be posted on the AC Owners forum “What AC Is This?” and start a conversation

CompClassics · #7 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 11:14 AM

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86Sebring · #8 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sunman

What is Richard Wesselinks story about where he got the car?
He was on AC Owners 2011 looking for parts. “rwesselink”
Your backstory is kinda something we expect on forums.
How about somebody with a real AC contact him. He listed all his info.
I suggest the AC chassis be posted on the AC Owners forum “What AC Is This?” and start a conversation

here is the link

https://www.acownersclub.co.uk/forum...p?topic=1594.0

CompClassics · #9 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 05:33 PM

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sunman · #11 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 11:43 AM

I read there were about 150 ACs imported.
Go with what you got, somewhere there is a guy with a AC body and title lookin for you.
If the Carol Conner car is missing I’d start saying I got it
Call her publicist ask her what happened to her boyfriends (Elvis maybe) car
My car is a supersized Ace on steroids, like Shelbys only bigger

Dumpling · #12 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 11:53 AM

People seem hung up over the $400 loan? My parents in the same period paid off their home to the owner with hand written checks; back the the bank returned cashed checks with each month's statement. Those cashed checks were the 'receipts'.

Why couldn't the car have been won by Paul Cunningham in a poker game, or as a side bet on a race? Ann might have been Po'd and hung onto the title, but let the actual car go. The death of Cunningham cleared the bet, but what was she to do?

Too many people no longer around to explain things and SAIC seemingly allows things like this. As posted much earlier, this is why Jay Leno owns a replica.

sunman · #13 (**permalink**) 12-10-2021, 12:18 PM

Maybe she sold the car, used whatever cash left over and good credit to finance the anchor home and/or 2 small rental units next to it you can street view. Ann is smart and frugal evidenced by the rental homes.
A check of county records will give a construction date
Easy to check out if home or rentals were built soon after July 63
It would lend credence to her selling the car if they were

CompClassics · #14 (**permalink**) 12-14-2021, 10:21 AM

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1ntCobra · #15 (**permalink**) 12-14-2021, 04:55 PM

Well I am no lawyer, but how do we know that if Kress had shown up that the outcome would have been any different. Perhap Kress got some legal advice that he might lose if he showed up or maybe he got advice that he might prevail if he did not show up or maybe he got advice to sell the car outside of the United States and get money while he still could.

In the future, if anyone considers purchasing either the car in Europe or the Hasselrig/Wesselink car (if it ever gets finished) it seems like registry clues you into what you need to know.

The Hasselrig/Wesselink car is being built with a new chassis and body, which to me means it will be a nice replica, but with a CSX serial number attached. The registry says the Hasselrig/Wesselink car will use original numbered trunk and doors and some other parts from the wreck. However John say the doors and trunk are not from CSX 2049. So maybe that can be corrected in a later registry. Although the registry says original numbered trunk and doors, it does not say what serial numbers were on those originally numbered trunk and doors, hmm ...

The registry also mentions an air car out there. So if you are out shopping, you should be trying to figure out whether you are buying the replica with the original serial number as allowed by Califorinia or the air car with parts of the original chassis. Regardless of which one you might buy I doubt either of them will command millions of dollars. And who knows, maybe some people would prefer the air car and pay more for that knowing that it has some of the original chassis in it over a replica with the serial number but likely no parts from CSX2049.

CompClassics · #16 (**permalink**) 12-14-2021, 06:42 PM

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USC_COWBOY · #17 (**permalink**) 12-15-2021, 10:43 AM

I am really looking forward to receiving my copy of Robert D. Walker's new Chassis by Chassis Cobra Tome, apparently it's a supply-chain issue, books should arrive in New York 12/17 go through customs, shipped to Illinois then distributed mid January.

It is a two book set, over 1000 pages, quite expensive $250. Hope it has new info to bolster current records.

Happy Holidays All and Stay safe!

peterpjb · #18 (**permalink**) 12-15-2021, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

I am really looking forward to receiving my copy of Robert D. Walker's new Chassis by Chassis Cobra Tome, apparently it's a supply-chain issue, books should arrive in New York 12/17 go through customs, shipped to Illinois then distributed mid January.

It is a two book set, over 1000 pages, quite expensive $250. Hope it has new info to bolster current records.

Happy Holidays All and Stay safe!

I referred to it in post #368

peterpjb · #19 (**permalink**) 12-15-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

I am really looking forward to receiving my copy of Robert D. Walker's new Chassis by Chassis Cobra Tome, apparently it's a supply-chain issue, books should arrive in New York 12/17 go through customs, shipped to Illinois then distributed mid January.

It is a two book set, over 1000 pages, quite expensive $250. Hope it has new info to bolster current records.

Happy Holidays All and Stay safe!

I referred to it in post #368

Nedsel · #20 (**permalink**) 12-15-2021, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by USC_COWBOY

I am really looking forward to receiving my copy of Robert D. Walker's new Chassis by Chassis Cobra Tome. Hope it has new info to bolster current records.

Regrettably, there are really no new details on 2049. The bulk of the report discusses the louvres in the hood and wonders why the Registry changed details between the 2008 and 2019 versions. This has been explained previously, as the 2008 version was based on made-up data submitted by "FBI agent" Richard ********x. I can't even mention him here on CC without his name registering a STOP, hence the added x.) Walker also parses the details in prior registries and expresses curiosity about many of the conflicting bits of data that have been submitted over the years. I suspect Bob was left scratching his head in much the same manner as the Cobra Registrar has been over many years.