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09-24-2015, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Perth,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Pace Alumina 427 #69
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600 pages is fairly reasonable.....lol. I read the Pace manual on the flights home from work....1- it's super detailed, 2- Helps me fall asleep in a blink...
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09-24-2015, 07:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Alice Springs, central Australia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic revival kit (CR3181), gen III engine, T56 6 speed box, AU XR8 lsd diff
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I can only speak for the early square tube manual, it seems good at first, but when you are actually into the build, it isnt real flash.
It does supply info regarding what donor parts to get, and part numbers, I think there was even some bolt tension specs in there.
I suppose it will all depend on how much assistance you need, and also the older builds (multiple donor/supplier vehicles) there is a large scope for variations.
But a kit like the Pace or I guess the F5 cars, because all the items are the same, it is a bit more like a production line product, so variations are much less, so it can say "run wiring loom along right sill and through 32mm hole into engine bay" but a more donor kit may just say "run wiring harness from cabin through firewall and into engine bay" (you need to figure out the how and where)
It is comprehensive, but not specific.
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09-24-2015, 11:06 PM
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Location: Sunbury,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
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+1 for Marty. He's a good operator and been a long time supporter of the Cobra community and Club.
The last time I checked out one of his chassis I was impressed. Very sturdy design. A Kenmer Cobra would be a good choice
Cheers
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09-25-2015, 12:03 AM
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I like the idea of building your Cobra with a group of people. But sadly I would never be comfortable with leaving my car in a public workshop, but that's just me.
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RF12 414 Windsor 8 stack ,6spd, Avons
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09-25-2015, 02:00 AM
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You don't have to leave it there, l understand what you say. Martin is there whenever anybody is working on there car, I think given where all mature adult enthusiasts .........
Enough said
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09-28-2015, 07:31 PM
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Rang the wreckers today, FPV 335kw 6 speed man being sold off for parts, Motor/gearbox 18k, can import brand new for $17.5k not including gst and postage
Thought that was a bit steep for 2012 60000klm
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09-28-2015, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoity
Rang the wreckers today, FPV 335kw 6 speed man being sold off for parts, Motor/gearbox 18k, can import brand new for $17.5k not including gst and postage
Thought that was a bit steep for 2012 60000klm
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Especially when you can buy a brand new LSA motor in the Crate for $11K which makes 430KW without breaking a sweat.
VF GTS HSV HOLDEN 6.2 LITRE SUPERCHARGED LSA V8 ENGINE (Comes with manual twin plate clutch)
Cheers
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09-28-2015, 09:44 PM
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Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RMC, carb 347 TopLoader and Jag running gear ~ so old school I time it with an hour-glass :D
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Evil Dark-Side voodoo with un-natural aspiration and value for money.
Go into the light
LoBelly
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09-29-2015, 02:56 AM
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Evil Dark-Side voodoo with un-natural aspiration and value for money.
Go into the light
LoBelly
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Hey lobelly, do you think that would be MUCH more to buy than the coyote, lol
Sounds like it would be a bit of fun in a Cobra
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09-29-2015, 02:51 AM
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Crazy stuff, how can that be so cheap compared to the coyote, is the chev a lower spec motor from a technology perspective?
Appears to be 2v, single ohc etc
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09-29-2015, 03:03 AM
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Location: Sydney,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival #3199. 366ci L76, T56 6 speed, Blue circle custom paint, Australias most original cobra 2009-2010
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Crazy stuff, how can that be so cheap compared to the coyote, is the chev a lower spec motor from a technology perspective?
Appears to be 2v, single ohc etc
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Perhaps, however they probably have taken if it aint broke dont fix it approach....
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09-28-2015, 09:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Revival #3199. 366ci L76, T56 6 speed, Blue circle custom paint, Australias most original cobra 2009-2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoity
Rang the wreckers today, FPV 335kw 6 speed man being sold off for parts, Motor/gearbox 18k, can import brand new for $17.5k not including gst and postage
Thought that was a bit steep for 2012 60000klm
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He would want to be throwing in some jousting sticks.
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09-29-2015, 06:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Puckett 250 GTO - LS1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoity
Rang the wreckers today, FPV 335kw 6 speed man being sold off for parts, Motor/gearbox 18k, can import brand new for $17.5k not including gst and postage
Thought that was a bit steep for 2012 60000klm
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I bought a Statutory Write-Off at a salvage auction. I had the whole thing stripped in three weeks (wife imposed limit) and got close on half the auction cost back by selling the unwanted bits on eBay. There are quite a few items other than the engine and gearbox that can be used, e.g. loom, ecu, diff, emission gear, cats, brakes, including booster, pedal box and master cylinders, even fuel tank and filler hoses Lots of stuff that are often a hidden cost when trying to work out an initial budget.
Go to a couple of auctions where they are selling what you want (or register on-line) and see what is the going rate.
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09-29-2015, 07:14 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Pace 427 SSL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterAllen
I bought a Statutory Write-Off at a salvage auction. I had the whole thing stripped in three weeks (wife imposed limit) and got close on half the auction cost back by selling the unwanted bits on eBay. There are quite a few items other than the engine and gearbox that can be use, e.g. loom, ecu, diff, emission gear, cats, brakes, including pedal box and master cylinders, even fuel tank and filler hoses Lots of stuff that are often a hidden cost when trying to work out an initial budget.
Go to a couple of auctions where they are selling what you want (or register on-line) and see what is the going rate.
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I did the same. On-line auction. Stripped an SS ommodore, kept all wiring, engine, gearbox, diff, ECU etc. Sold most of the balance and that virtually paid for what I needed. End result was line-ball.
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09-29-2015, 09:07 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: munno para west,
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Cobra Make, Engine: absolute pace chassis #50 L98 & 6 speed auto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterAllen
I bought a Statutory Write-Off at a salvage auction. I had the whole thing stripped in three weeks (wife imposed limit) and got close on half the auction cost back by selling the unwanted bits on eBay. There are quite a few items other than the engine and gearbox that can be use, e.g. loom, ecu, diff, emission gear, cats, brakes, including pedal box and master cylinders, even fuel tank and filler hoses Lots of stuff that are often a hidden cost when trying to work out an initial budget.
Go to a couple of auctions where they are selling what you want (or register on-line) and see what is the going rate.
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i did the same thing i bought a ve calais and kept the engine box loom ecu diff and cats all can be used in the pace .
i then sold the leather interior exhaust system stereo with the gps the mags and finally the complete shell .
the car was straight and not classed as a write of just was missing one gaurd and headlight . by the time i sold what i duid not need my engine /box looms ecu cats and diff centre owed me just on 3 grand car had just done over 60.000 ks .its another option of getting what you need
cheers dean
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09-28-2015, 10:28 PM
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gee im half tempted to sell my l 98 and buy one of ls3 with the blower wonder how long my auto trans would live behind it tho ..
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09-28-2015, 10:58 PM
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LoBelly, a flat plane crank would sound good. Have you ever heard one? They sound quite different to a the normal cross plane crank that V8's run. It's one of the reasons a Ferrari sounds the way it does.
But at 526 HP it's still 50HP down on the LSA
Cheers
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09-29-2015, 01:07 AM
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Location: Mildura,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Coupe, 416ci of LS goodness
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Programming the ford ecu won't be a walking the park either.
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09-29-2015, 02:42 AM
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Gav, are you talking about the work around for bypassing the electronic safety's built into the Ecu?
I imagine an imported motor won't have that issue!
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09-29-2015, 05:29 AM
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Quote:
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Gav, are you talking about the work around for bypassing the electronic safety's built into the Ecu?
I imagine an imported motor won't have that issue!
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Finding someone who can do anything with a Ford ECU that is more advanced than resetting the service interval is a big task.
The factory Ford ECU's are not simple to reconfigure.
LS motors on the other hand will produce 1000 hp extra by just wiping the rocker covers with a rag and they are teaching pre schoolers how to use HP Tuners to tune up their Mums Club Sport wagon after they have done a cam swap for her.
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