I want a cobra, how and why

[muzzza]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey albanycobra, couldn't find it, went for a 100 ads, will anothe go later on.

See link or PM me for any info. Muz

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[Hoity]

Originally Posted by muzzza

See link or PM me for any info. Muz

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Thanks for the link muzza. I am not ready to pull the trigger yet, although at the moment I want a ford motor. It certainly is a nice bit of kit. Good luck with everything and if by chance it's still around when I ready, who knows.

[Dimis]

Welcome.

Firstly, if I may be so crude, what's your budget and what level of experience do you have?
My decision was based on those two factors above.

Good luck & Enjoy the fun.

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Welcome.

Firstly, if I may be so crude, what's your budget and what level of experience do you have?
My decision was based on those two factors above.

Good luck & Enjoy the fun.

Thanks dimis, funny thing I haven't thought too much about the budget, 50k upfront for the pace might be an issue, given if you buy a kit and you can drip feed the cash over the life of the project I think I will be ok.
I am an electrician by trade, rebuilt a ford v8 30 years ago, just finished a Reno on the house. Pretty hands on with Dirtbikes and Harley's currently. I think I am up for it, just need to get wifey on board and sort out my time management.

[deano59]

i built one about 17 yrs ago but was forced too sell it in a divorce and vowed and declared i would get another one when my circumstances changed .
i didnt want too build one after doing that with the last one scrounging thru wreckers and buying old jags then cleaning and recondition everything as i went along 3 yrs to build it i thought bugga that .
i,looked at a few local and flew interstate to tassie too look at one but couldnt find find one that suited my needs or i liked the look of .
in the end the wife and myself flew up to qld to check out the pace kits and was blown away by the quality and the engineering of the cars ive been involved in motor sport for the last 30 yrs and these equalled and in many cases bettered what i was used too .
we placed our order this time last yr and have made all the payments apart from transport to adelaide so we are waiting patiently for a delivery date . in saying that my car had to be modified to accommodate the 6 speed auto trans in it around the trans tunnel as there a wide bugga of a trans .
but due to a leg injury using a clutch pedal is out of the question and i didnt want to use a old turbo 400 trans or the like when i could have a 6 speed behind a L98 engine .
im lucky as my wife is motor car and Motorsport tragic she is on the committee and is the time keeper in our club where i race so i dont have any problems spending and her getting upset with in reason .

if your in a hurry and want a car to drive around in this summer look for one on the road and ready to go if your not in a rush check out the absolute pace kits or the factory five kits and see if there to your liking .
50g will put you into a car on the road as a base level inho after searching for one and the pace depending on what extras you want and how much of it you can do yourself imj budgeting for around 85g give or take a bit , in my case i can do all engine work and mechanical work as a semi retired mechanic put i will pay someone to do the wiring and trimming .
what ever way you go building or buying they will put a smile on ya dial for many a mile when ya out cruising .

cheers dean

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by deano59

i built one about 17 yrs ago but was forced too sell it in a divorce and vowed and declared i would get another one when my circumstances changed .
i didnt want too build one after doing that with the last one scrounging thru wreckers and buying old jags then cleaning and recondition everything as i went along 3 yrs to build it i thought bugga that .
i,looked at a few local and flew interstate to tassie too look at one but couldnt find find one that suited my needs or i liked the look of .
in the end the wife and myself flew up to qld to check out the pace kits and was blown away by the quality and the engineering of the cars ive been involved in motor sport for the last 30 yrs and these equalled and in many cases bettered what i was used too .
we placed our order this time last yr and have made all the payments apart from transport to adelaide so we are waiting patiently for a delivery date . in saying that my car had to be modified to accommodate the 6 speed auto trans in it around the trans tunnel as there a wide bugga of a trans .
but due to a leg injury using a clutch pedal is out of the question and i didnt want to use a old turbo 400 trans or the like when i could have a 6 speed behind a L98 engine .
im lucky as my wife is motor car and Motorsport tragic she is on the committee and is the time keeper in our club where i race so i dont have any problems spending and her getting upset with in reason .

if your in a hurry and want a car to drive around in this summer look for one on the road and ready to go if your not in a rush check out the absolute pace kits or the factory five kits and see if there to your liking .
50g will put you into a car on the road as a base level inho after searching for one and the pace depending on what extras you want and how much of it you can do yourself imj budgeting for around 85g give or take a bit , in my case i can do all engine work and mechanical work as a semi retired mechanic put i will pay someone to do the wiring and trimming .
what ever way you go building or buying they will put a smile on ya dial for many a mile when ya out cruising .

cheers dean

Thanks dean, it's amazing how many people have been touched by the cars many years ago only to have the desire to have one lay dormant, until such time as we can make it happen. Even worse for you having had one, let it go and now that life is all the better with a wife that's into what your into. The pace car is now on my shortlist, it is all good news so far with that car.

[Gav]

I'm a sparks too Hoity, and started out like yourself without a solid budget.
I bought the basic body and chassis and then bought parts as they where required, affordable or if I had the cash.
Just like any complex task you will learn new skills and hone ones you had building a cobra.
As far as supplier support goes CR is sometimes a little disappointing, but the wealth of knowledge the other builders have is more important.
If you are really serious about building a cobra, get your butt to the nationals the weekend of the 2/3/4 and see what the differences are between kits and start building your new circle of mates!

[Gav]

I forgot to mention, what I liked most about the CR was that most of the parts are not custom one off bits, if I was to break a lower control arm on the front I can locate a jag part from anywhere and fix it. I didn't like the idea of having to buy parts from one supplier who may go out of business. I'm not saying anyone is going out of business in the cobra game but I wanted to future proof my car.

[Hoity]

Hey gav, just took the wife out for breakfast and had the conversation. As you know that's grand final weekend here in Melbourne, which we of late have been going away for and watching the game on the TV in our camper trailer. Now I am suggesting we get up to Goulburn for the weekend, kill two birds with the one stone, so to speak.

I have some questions which I will post in the cobra nationals thread.

Thanks for the info on the CR, it's my preferred choice at the moment and given its pedigree appears to be a well engineered kit.

Why chev for you?

[deano59]

i forgot about the cr kits and also the g force kits as well best idea is to sit in a few and see how well you fit in them ...the old chev vs ford when i built my first one if you had anything but a ford engine you could almost get shot for treason .
alth there was the odd chev and 308 powered cars around and i also went for a ride in a rb 30 turbo powered cobra it was bloody fast but just looked and sounded wrong .

with ls engines been so cheap and plentiful nowdays and you can make good power out of them the stigma i feel about having a chev powered car is not as bad as it used to be well at least i dont think you will shot for treason ..

it's true a car built with jag bits parts will always be plentiful and cheap .
with my pace i will prob order a spare set of wishbones and uprights once the car is finished and have them for just in case . failing that im not all that concerned with the amount of different wishbones and uprights been used in speedway i am confident something could be adapted to fit after all its just metal & alloy and not something used on a space shuttle ..
a trip to the nationals will prob having you leave there with placing a order with one of the suppliers .
cheers dean

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by deano59

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a trip to the nationals will prob having you leave there with placing a order with one of the suppliers .
cheers dean

I am working on that
Cheers

[albanycobra]

Get your Missus in a Cobra for a ride......Once my Missus had a ride in one she was hooked and Cobra freedom fell my way.....infact she drove my last red Cobra more than me.....

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by albanycobra

Get your Missus in a Cobra for a ride......Once my Missus had a ride in one she was hooked and Cobra freedom fell my way.....infact she drove my last red Cobra more than me.....

That sounds like a plan.

Do they do rides via suppliers ect at the nationals or is it a visit to the manufacturers factory etc?

[Gav]

If you ask nicely I'm sure you will get plenty of offers

[leroy17]

I appears your have concerned about a Chev.

Here is a way of looking at it.

It's like beer, pizza and sex............ Even if you think it's bad..... It's still good.

And if you have any one of these and your mates don't, well you got something to brag about.

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by leroy17

I appears your have concerned about a Chev.

Here is a way of looking at it.

It's like beer, pizza and sex............ Even if you think it's bad..... It's still good.

And if you have any one of these and your mates don't, well you got something to brag about.

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

[Modena]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

you keep saying it's a Ford. You know a Cobra was a British AC Ace with a Ford engine it, right?

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by Modena

you keep saying it's a Ford. You know a Cobra was a British AC Ace with a Ford engine it, right?

Yeah i read up on the history, but in my little head its always been a ford cobra or a Ford AC cobra, Shelby ford cobra. I know shelby wanted/tried for chev motors first. Its never been a chev cobra, shelby and ford, dont know want Carroll did with chev?

Shelby made it famous with a ford motor, its why we have a forum like this.

[Aussie Mike]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey Leroy, not so much a problem as i dont get why you put a chev in a ford. Its like HSV v FPR, in my head theres stuff as a bloke you dont do, and that i thought was one of them, but times are obviously a changin.

My logic tells me the reasons are more of a cost issue, getting it past adr approval or it fits better. I dont know the answer and that was what i was trying to understand.

Who says it's a Ford? The car was originally built by AC. Prior to Shelby getting involved they ran AC, Bristol and Ford 6 cylinder engines.

Yes they were sold through Ford dealers in the US and Shelby has had close ties to Ford ever since (to Chrysler too).

If you are a purist and love your Fords then go with a Ford motor (I've owned plenty and still own one). What ever floats your boat.

I had the option of choosing a Ford motor but I chose the LS motor because I believe it was technically so much better than the old Windsor motor.

It's hard not to argue with a compact light weight all aluminium engine with it's deep skirted block and 6 bolt main bearing caps. O ring gaskets throughout etc. Huge aftermarket support and the factory ECU is easily re-tunable. They make 400HP without even turning a spanner and with good fuel economy. Throw a cam and some head porting at it and look out.

The advantage of building your own car is you can do it your way and not give a damn what anyone else thinks. Stick a triple rotor 20B turbo Mazda rotary in it if you like You would have the same result.... A lightweight frighteningly fast sports car that turns heads and starts conversations wherever you drive it.

Cheers

[spookypt]

Originally Posted by Aussie Mike

Who says it's a Ford? The car was originally built by AC. Prior to Shelby getting involved they ran AC, Bristol and Ford 6 cylinder engines.


Cheers

You sure Mike about the 6 cyl FORD?

Exert "History of the 1962-1967 Shelby Cobra"
The AC Ace had utilized the pre-war BMW 2-liter, 6-cylinder engine, which was going out of production. Understanding that AC needed a replacement motor, Shelby tapped into his Ford connections to user their lightweight 260ci V-8. In the process, Shelby managed to get both sides to agree that the resultant sports car would be manufactured under the Shelby name. etc etc tec

Geez if BMW has some bloodline my cobra must be more genuine than I thought!