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View Poll Results: Who will win the race - March 8, LV Speedway
The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3 22 17.32%
The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 1 37 29.13%
The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 2 or 3 14 11.02%
The 458 Italia is beatable, but the Cobra's driver isn't good enough, so it loses all 3 31 24.41%
The Italia's driver messes up, so it loses at least 1 23 18.11%
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:47 AM
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Default How many guys are willing to visit LV to see this race?

Just curious, its been one hellova a ride so far, lots of enthusiasm, albeit with some rancor back and forth, but genuine interest nonetheless. I am of the opinion Keith put a decidedly different spin on this when he said he was asked not to discuss the engine details but he knew of the car, this statement alone made it even more compelling. So concluding we'll hear some further details from Tom moving forward, how many of the club members are prepared to see this smack down in person? And just so you know, providing we don't have a buy out along the way, I'm in, I need apologize to Tom in person anyway.

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Tommy- I think it is fantastic that you are going to be enjoying your new toy and driving it the way it should be driven. To make things fair the Cobra should have at least some drag radial, then the race might get close.

Can you or the Cobra driver use a GoPro camera to film the event?

Thanks for bringing the topic to light on this forum and letting everyone banter back and forth about the race.


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Old 02-05-2011, 09:01 AM
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:09 AM
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I didn't read the previous 5 pages, but my mate did 10.6 with a 428cui in Germany, fuel injected and not too radical engine. Ever since he battles to do the same time, even though he has plenty of drag time. Under 11 often, but 10.5 not...

He uses slicks and is no stranger to high speed, even though we are looking at only 130mph top speed, or so.

I want to hear the result!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKmRdxaqukE

This is the 10.9, I can't find the 10.6 video (maybe on his website?)
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:36 AM
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If the guy’s running a 13.4 quarter, safety will be a big concern. Having put about 1500 miles on my KC powered SPF this past summer, I ‘m just scratching the surface on what it takes to drive one. There is obvious correlation between the distance the gas pedal is pressed, and the number of degrees the back end comes around. Add adrenaline and pressure…hope the Cobra stays in it’s lane.
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Old 02-05-2011, 12:32 PM
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Looks like the thread on ferrari chat is starting to get some bites.
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Old 02-05-2011, 01:47 PM
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Default Hey Tom Goldstein

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I live in the DC metro area and would like to meet with you if possible. I want to loan you a GoPro HD camera to use to film the race. Let me know if you are interested.
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This has been one of the most entertaining threads I've ever read ! But remembering my days growing up in Detroit street racing , it seems like Tom has been baited and drawn in ! It happens quite often in high stakes street racing . The cobra driver has played it perfectly. All he needs is 1 win or fault on Tom's part and he wins . My side bet money would be on the cobra !
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Hi David. I was just getting ready to say that I don't have the camera when I saw your message. Absolutely, PM me.

And all, my buddy has now seen the forum and is eating it up.

Thanks, Tom
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:00 PM
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Tom,
You tell your buddy to get on the Ferrari forum to get his info.
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:10 PM
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Tom,

Like a lot of us here, I have been following this thread with great interest and want to wish both you and your buddy a safe and fun race. I was at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway recently for some drag races and it looks to be a great facility. Sounds like it will be quite a show, thanks for keeping us posted. Best of luck to you guys.

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You guys asked for it I am here! Great thread, this **** is really entertaining. After receiving Goldstien's 500 **** talking messages a day and hearing all of your quotes about how he is going to beat my ass, its good to be in the discussion. So Tommy has laid it out exactly how it is, bet started from him talking **** about my girl wanting to bang him b/c of his new ride and how I was gonna have to wait to years to get mine to me telling him I would blow his doors off in my cobra. This then turned into a bet. At the time of making the bet I had only driven my car 20 miles in the last year. I had previously done a few days of "driving school"/racing at sebring road course, which is the first time I had ever been on a track and almost died numerous times. I had previously had a f430(totaled it in 3 weeks of driving) and the shelby was way faster. So i figured i had him in the bag, then i hear about his sophisticated launch control system and that his car beats the enzo and only lost to a 1200 ducati by 1 second etc. After this point having never drag raced or done a 1/4 mile race in any car in my life i started to get a little nervous. So I took my car out to test the time, I had a buddy in a truck measure off 1/4 mile on his odometer and i dragged it nearly killing my self the 2nd time. I then went out again and timed it and i was running high 13's, this was pretty ****ing ****ty esp since i missed 3rd gear half of my runs. I had to take valium to sleep while receiving intermittent **** talking texts from Tom. I just finished driving today for the 2nd time since we made the bet and the g meter was messed up but my buddy who is good at dragging said i was below 13s. I am getting better, but its hard to drive this car out here, and I wont be able to get behind the wheel till after im done partying for superbowl weekend. I have tried to get to the drag strip but they wont let me out there till the 15th or 16th. My car is definitely capable of beating him as my motor is supposed to make over 600 horse power, the hard part is getting that to the wheels where i can use it. I offered tommy boy a buy out today after his confidence seemed a little shot and he told me to stick it up my ass, so I guess we will find out when the rubber meets the road. I have a kirkham cobra that weighs like 2200 lbs and has a 427 side oiler making over 600 hp, so i would say that this race is like if he had a mastercraft ski boat and was racing a 15 ft aluminum fishing boat with a 200 hp motor, the fishing boat is capable of winning as long as you don't wreck the ****er trying to do it. I have real mans car, no paddle shifting bull****, no launch control, no power steering, no abs breaks, no traction control, and no air bags... I think my balls are bigger than yours tommy boy, but we will see....
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The thread gets better . Read it through , lots of tips . I'd get some practice at the strip , it's different than the street . There will be alot going on in your guys heads , you'll need to focus . All you need is for him to screw up once . Practice , practice , practice . My moneys still on the cobra.
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I was planning a shopping/getaway trip to Miami but I just told Wifey I am seriously thinking of flying to Vegas instead to take in the race. Regardless of the outcome it could end up being a blast.
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:40 PM
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Are you at liberty to say what the specs are of your engine? Did Keith Craft build it?

I love Ferrari's and I own a Kirkham, which I dearly love, but my brain tells me the Ferrari will win. Tom could hit mid-12's, make a mistake or two, and still beat you with you in the 13's.
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Can I be the starter ... please, please, please???!!! My money's on the Fazazz, but eagerly awaiting the outcome.
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As pointed out earlier, there may be some issues with safety equipment. I am not up on the rule book but I believe a roll bar (NHRA certified) is required for topless cars running 12.99 or faster. Will the Kirkham bar pass if necessary? Will it pass the "stick test" if applicable? If disqualification occurs how does that impact the bet?
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