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View Poll Results: Who will win the race - March 8, LV Speedway
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The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3
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The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 1
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The 458 Italia is beatable, and loses 2 or 3
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The 458 Italia is beatable, but the Cobra's driver isn't good enough, so it loses all 3
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The Italia's driver messes up, so it loses at least 1
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02-07-2011, 02:22 PM
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I ran the quarter at the first Shelby fest in Vegas, best run I had was 12.2 through the quarter, reaction time was 0.111, get some guidance from the timer on the Christmas Tree on launch, basically it was once it hits the yellow go hammer down. I had difficulty getting traction on 1st through 3rd gears, best method that equalled best time was a quicker shift from 1st to 2nd and modualating the accelerator. The motor was rated at 580 HP at the flywheel, revving the motor at launch did not help, I ran the rpm up to about 1750 and throttled from there. I walked on the track with my driving shows, the shoes would stick to the asphalt. Do not go through the water for a burn out, this would not help. Basically the run up was used for testing the acceleration. Also make sure where the timing lights are as they were not well delineated, I was letting up on the accelerator prior to the line. I ran drag races before and this helped the Cobra was a different beast with the inability to get traction, in my opinion the hole shot is where close races are won or lost. I ran against a lot of GT550's and a couple of modified GT's, the closest car I had was 2 lengths at the finish behind my car.
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02-07-2011, 03:24 PM
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Trap speed
What was your trap speed, since most Cobras are traction limited you can get a pretty good idea of potential by trap speed. I would think high 120's and maybe 130 to have the potential to defeat the 458. I have seen a number of Cobras run over the years that did not even break 120 which means the RWHP may not be what they think it is.
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Originally Posted by Thieleng
I ran the quarter at the first Shelby fest in Vegas, best run I had was 12.2 through the quarter, reaction time was 0.111, get some guidance from the timer on the Christmas Tree on launch, basically it was once it hits the yellow go hammer down. I had difficulty getting traction on 1st through 3rd gears, best method that equalled best time was a quicker shift from 1st to 2nd and modualating the accelerator. The motor was rated at 580 HP at the flywheel, revving the motor at launch did not help, I ran the rpm up to about 1750 and throttled from there. I walked on the track with my driving shows, the shoes would stick to the asphalt. Do not go through the water for a burn out, this would not help. Basically the run up was used for testing the acceleration. Also make sure where the timing lights are as they were not well delineated, I was letting up on the accelerator prior to the line. I ran drag races before and this helped the Cobra was a different beast with the inability to get traction, in my opinion the hole shot is where close races are won or lost. I ran against a lot of GT550's and a couple of modified GT's, the closest car I had was 2 lengths at the finish behind my car.
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02-07-2011, 03:27 PM
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...not to mention that aerodynamically speaking the Cobra's a flying brick.
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02-07-2011, 06:13 PM
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I'm interested to see how Keith C votes in the poll. And I truly love the art work.
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02-07-2011, 08:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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For Tommy..............
I know you had mentioned Feb 25th as the date of the race, has this been booked and is there a time slot allocated?
BTW I sent you a PM.
Cheers, tin-man
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02-07-2011, 09:26 PM
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Ferrari VS 65 Cobra / Kirkham Episode THEBET
If Tommy Gold / Blitzforce Prepay for some of my costs film crews room (1) night and one meal. Camera Crew (2), Sound, Shannon Elizabeth Host etc.. So lets figure $2,000.00 to cover; And cover any Film fee LVMS likes to charge..
I will take care of all other costs of filming this event for THEBET TV production in creation..
I will bring the helicopter, HD cameras, MAC equipment and film the whole race with pre race interviews, the race and whole day activities.
I will also bet 2k the oldschool underdog cobra will win for the hell of it...
If the Race does not happen - as some are now betting, then the prepay monies are forfitted.
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02-07-2011, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by otomix
If Tommy Gold / Blitzforce Prepay for some of my costs film crews room (1) night and one meal. Camera Crew (2), Sound, Shannon Elizabeth Host etc.. So lets figure $2,000.00 to cover; And cover any Film fee LVMS likes to charge..
I will take care of all other costs of filming this event for THEBET TV production in creation..
I will bring the helicopter, HD cameras, MAC equipment and film the whole race with pre race interviews, the race and whole day activities.
I will also bet 2k the oldschool underdog cobra will win for the hell of it...
If the Race does not happen - as some are now betting, then the prepay monies are forfitted.
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Jeeeez, this thread keeps getting better and better......y'think?
THEBET TV production in creation
otomix, any chance we can get a heads up on the probable cost for the THEBET DVD?
tin-man
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02-08-2011, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by otomix
If Tommy Gold / Blitzforce Prepay for some of my costs film crews room (1) night and one meal. Camera Crew (2), Sound, Shannon Elizabeth Host etc.. So lets figure $2,000.00 to cover; And cover any Film fee LVMS likes to charge..
I will take care of all other costs of filming this event for THEBET TV production in creation..
I will bring the helicopter, HD cameras, MAC equipment and film the whole race with pre race interviews, the race and whole day activities.
I will also bet 2k the oldschool underdog cobra will win for the hell of it...
If the Race does not happen - as some are now betting, then the prepay monies are forfitted.
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Can I pre-order the video?
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02-07-2011, 09:11 PM
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Does anyone know of a drag track in vegas that I can go figure out what my car is running, b/c i would really like to know if I am in the ballpark on this?
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02-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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Vegas Speedway out by the Base.
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02-07-2011, 10:15 PM
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Omg
[quote=blitzforce;1108340]Does anyone know of a drag track in vegas that I can go figure out what my car is running, b/c i would really like to know if I am in the ballpark on this?[/QUOTE]
is this just another brilliant stroke of one upmanship planning by Blitz to sucker Tommy even deeper into this bet, 
or is it a slow realization that Tommy could win this race, if the Cobra was not optimized?
Jeeeez, this thread keeps getting better and better...... 
Cheers, tin-man
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02-08-2011, 08:42 AM
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Note and respect that that I had the 7th fasted time on Dan's list. Dan, remind me please, what was that from?
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02-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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Tommygold,
That was taken from the Factory Five drag racers forum. Ernie can't get traction but a lot of cobras have no problem.
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I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
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You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
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The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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02-08-2011, 01:21 PM
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Good point CobraDan, I got to get me some drag radials! The very interesting data base does list the type of tires, which is way cool.
Note the 0-60 ft times, I've never been under 2 (and still ran 11.90 at 123 mph). 
And how about that naturally aspirated 289 at number 6 on the list!!
Oh,,, and tommy, your ET is downright scary!
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02-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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A set of drag radials will change the way you look at and drive your Cobra. They are the best thing since... well big block Cobras!!
Jason
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02-08-2011, 01:44 PM
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Read the thread here:
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I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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02-09-2011, 09:48 AM
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02-08-2011, 02:12 PM
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sorry skiped ahead...... if this has been asked........ Panorama Apartment in LV is where all the young Poker millionaires live Any connection ? Prop bet?
SDR
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02-09-2011, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
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sorry skiped ahead...... if this has been asked........ Panorama Apartment in LV is where all the young Poker millionaires live Any connection ? Prop bet?
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CALLED IT !
i better see some famous poker players cheering you on in the video lol
sdr
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02-08-2011, 05:48 PM
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Can I make sure that I understand the chart? It looks like there are around 12 cars on it that have done better than 11.5 as their best time. It seems like those are drivers who've practiced dragging, and their cars may well be set up to drag. Blitz, by contrast, is basically addled, has a car that isn't set up for it, and certainly has no drag experience in a car that mere mortals regard as impossible to handle.
In the other lane, the recorded 1/4 mile times for 458's are 10.8-10.2. I won't get it perfect but I basically don't have to do anything but flick a switch.
And yet fully 40% of the people responding to the poll believe that the Cobra will win without me even screwing up? I'm sure I'm missing something.
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