Drag race - Kirkham 65 side-oiler vs Ferrari 458 italia

[RodKnock]

It appears that "The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3" is making a bit of a run at the moment.

I read something funny in the current issue of Keith Martin's Sport Car Market magazine. In an editorial response to a reader's letter to the magazine about the magazine's Ferrari writer bashing the Ferrari 3.2 Mondial as a POS, the editorial response states the Ferrari F430, the 458 Italia's predecessor, is already considered "so yesterday's news."

So, my question for Tommy is, when are your going to get rid of the Italia and move up to Cobra? The Cobra never goes out of style.

[tin-man]

[quote=RodKnock;1109229]It appears that "The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3" is making a bit of a run at the moment.

Temporary at best, look at the facts, Dan will be loaded for bear when the day comes, will know exactly what his beast can do and will take the Ferrari in at least one race, thus he gets to take Tommy's money and all the braggin' rights that goes with the win. Whereas, Tommy, being a fine upstandin' gent n'all, and ever so mindful of the next Supreme Court argument he's currently working on plus the fact he's on the fast track to becoming one of the most sought after litigation attorneys in Washington D.C. will have this thought at the back of his mind at the exact time he decides to floor it, thus, he messes up and loses the race.

RodKnock, given each car has a fightin' chance its a drivers race, and it will all boil down to who can out do the other person in the pre race psych. wars. IMHO.

Cheers, John AKA, tin-man

[RodKnock]

[quote=tin-man;1109233]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

It appears that "The 458 Italia is unbeatable, wins all 3" is making a bit of a run at the moment.

Temporary at best, look at the facts, Dan will be loaded for bear when the day comes, will know exactly what his beast can do and will take the Ferrari in at least one race, thus he gets to take Tommy's money and all the braggin' rights that goes with the win. Whereas, Tommy, being a fine upstandin' gent n'all, and ever so mindful of the next Supreme Court argument he's currently working on plus the fact he's on the fast track to becoming one of the most sought after litigation attorneys in Washington D.C. will have this thought at the back of his mind at the exact time he decides to floor it, thus, he messes up and loses the race.

RodKnock, given each car has a fightin' chance its a drivers race, and it will all boil down to who can out do the other person in the pre race psych. wars. IMHO.

Cheers, John AKA, tin-man

What facts? Other than Tommy Goldstein being a sought-after attorney, of course. The rest is opinion and speculation, just like my words on the matter.

If you look past the inherent traction issues, the lack of experience with his Cobra, stuff breaking (balancer-see Patrickt's thread on his balancer breaking) at the wrong time, sync'ing dual quads, then I really think Dan will do just fine.

[Don]

Jamo, will you be attending as the " official arbitrator " in case of any participant differences on the rules etc ?

With Ford now suing Ferrari over the use of the " F150 " designation, the Ford/Ferrari War continues.

[tkb289]

Originally Posted by Don

Jamo, will you be attending as the " official arbitrator " in case of any participant differences on the rules etc ? ...

Don,

Good suggestion ... if Jamo is not too busy working with the umbrella girls ...

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by tkb289

Don,

Good suggestion ... if Jamo is not too busy working with the umbrella girls ...

Hehehe...I'd just love to go watch...need a break (unions have gotten a bit uppity lately).

Big revs from big cubes? Not really gonna be the deciding factor in this matchup, but what's the big deal? With good stuff up top, either type of solid can hit it easy, and hydraulics are right there. Boghosian put T&Ds and stuff in just so mine could.

It's like dive watches that'll go to 3,000 feet.

Why? Cosby's routine assplains it perfectly.

This is a drivers' race.

[Buzz]

I just knew Jamo would get watches in on this discussion somewhere - it was only a matter of time.

[tin-man]

[quote=RodKnock;1109241]

Originally Posted by tin-man

What facts? Other than Tommy Goldstein being a sought-after attorney, of course. The rest is opinion and speculation, just like my words on the matter.

If you look past the inherent traction issues, the lack of experience with his Cobra, stuff breaking (balancer-see Patrickt's thread on his balancer breaking) at the wrong time, sync'ing dual quads, then I really think Dan will do just fine.

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Fact is we don't know really a hellova about about Dans engine but it keeps coming out that he's got more than was originally described or what we thought, and that's a fact. Other than that, Dan will win at least one race and that's all he needs. IMHO. Pre-race hype and positioning to the contrary.


John, AKA, tin-man

[RodKnock]

[quote=tin-man;1109405]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

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Fact is we don't know really a hellova about about Dans engine but it keeps coming out that he's got more than was originally described or what we thought, and that's a fact. Other than that, Dan will win at least one race and that's all he needs. IMHO. Pre-race hype and positioning to the contrary.


John, AKA, tin-man

And it appears that 56% in the poll agree with you and say that the Ferrari will lose at least one race. I just happen to disagree. Although I will admit that Dan's engine has gone from 600+ HP (I always thought it was at least a 482) engine to 720 HP from 511ci.

I'll stay with my original vote for one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world, with launch control and F1-inspired transmission, but it's certainly getting closer.

Solid roller cam or not? Inquiring minds want to know.