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01-31-2007, 10:39 AM
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Hb 5790
Claire Janowski has been contacted. We are currently awaiting her concurrence, advise and recommended DMV contacts to discuss the proposed changes prior to the Public Hearing, which has not yet been scheduled.
In addition, RENEW1 has contacted the DEP regarding a discussion of HB5790, prior to the Public Hearing.
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02-01-2007, 06:54 AM
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Thanks Don & RENEW1,
And all involved. The 4C's have their Feb mtg in wallingford 2/5/07 and according to the "Voice" will be discussing HB5790. I'm not sure if meeting is open to public or just members. But it is a worthy club to join as support is in the numbers...........
http://ctccc.cctol.com/index.html
See Ya There,
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02-01-2007, 08:07 AM
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Steve, I agree......joined the 4Cs as an Individual Member a few weeks ago. While I will not be at the next meeting, Dave, News Letter Editor of The Voice, is the 4Cs contact that RENEW1 and I have been working with.
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02-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Rene,
That file has a password?
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02-02-2007, 03:55 PM
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On previous attachment, click on "read only" and it should open
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02-03-2007, 08:09 AM
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I wiil be there, hope to see all......
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02-03-2007, 08:15 AM
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Regarding the Public Hearing on HB 5790:
At this time, the specific time and location on Feb 9th for the Public Hearing at the State Capital, Legislative Office Building, in Hartford has not been published. The following web site would appear to indicate the Public Hearing will start at 10:00 AM , if the same pattern is followed. The Hearing start time will be confirmed on the web site, one day earlier on Feb 8th
http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/menu/CommD...A&doc_type=pha
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/cbs/H/HB-5790.htm
Additional information regarding the specific room, building and directions to the State Capital Legislative Office Building can be obtained from the House Transportation Committee Clerk at 860-240-0590. The parking spaces immediately adjacent to the State Capital are limited.
The Connecticut General Assembly ( CGA ) Bill Tracking site:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/CGAPBTS.asp?se...ll_num=HB05790
House Transportation Committee Web Site
http://www.cga.ct.gov/TRA/
If possible, please plan to attend the Public Hearing. The last time a similar bill was proposed , there was no public support and the Bill was never reported out of the Transportation Committee
Should anyone have written testimony they wish to leave at the Public Hearing, House rules state that 50 copies are required.
EVERYONE"S SUPPORT IS NEEDED
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02-05-2007, 09:40 AM
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HB 5790 UPDATE,:
Public Hearing on Friday February 9th, currently scheduled to start at 10:00
From a discussion with the Transportation Committee Clerk:
** Adjacent parking is extremely limited, may have to use other lots in the vicinity
** Hearing will be in Room 1E in the Legislative Office Building, which is attached to the State Capital, guards are at each entrance to direct you to Room 1E
** Sign up for speaking to the Committee starts at 9:00, speakers are taken in the sequence of signing up. The clerk mentioned at a Hearing on another Bill there were over 50 speakers, RENEW 1 in reply # 205 on this Thread has posted the link regarding testimony instructions, click on Read Only to open the file.
** Written testimony requires 50 copies and has to be given to the Clerk in Meeting Room, 1 E, no later than 9:00. No specific format other than identifying HB 5790 on the top. Include your complete Name & Address with contact info
** It is not known what sequence the Bills will be discussed, there are a number of other Bills scheduled for the same day and time
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02-05-2007, 11:01 AM
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Don,
Thanks for the update.
Folks it's time for the "F" lady to sing, Let's be there in droves!!!!
Don't forget Shuttle Parking is available @ the Forest St. Lot every 15 mins. check the Ct Gov site......
http://www.cga.ct.gov/cop/Directions/directions.pdf
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02-05-2007, 11:14 AM
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As i mentioned earlier we could and probably will be there all day. Any other bill that day with a bigger following especially one that may have lobbist's will be put up front. The posting time is only a guideline. The more speakers a bill has the longer the wait. I have to leave by 2-3 pm.
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02-05-2007, 12:18 PM
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This is a new experience for me, contacted the Transportation Committee Clerk
** Dress: Jackets & ties are not required, appears business casual or something less is appropriate. Looks like it is not the televised hearings we see from Washington
** The speakers are taken in the sequence they register in WITHOUT regard to the specific bill. Getting to the Committee Hearing Room early if there is a line for the 9:00 sign-up, would allow for earlier testimony . Again, speaker sign up sequence, not Bill number sequence, for speaking
NOTE: Each speaker is limited to 3 minutes, that is correct, THREE minutes.
Each speaker should start with the Bill Number and Title and identify themselves.
** There are at least 30 to 35 + or - Bills on the Hearing schedule for Friday 2/9
** If attending, but not speaking, please consider written testimony, 50 copies to the clerk by 9:00 AM. The Clerks then collate in House Bill Number sequence for each of the 34 Representatives on the Transportation Committee. Reason to identify the Bill Number and Title at the top of the written testimony.
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02-05-2007, 12:39 PM
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HB 5790 Testimony:
Yes, it would be beneficial, if speaking, to still submit written testimony, 50 copies, which could be the same or more comprehensive, due to the 3 minute speaking limitation.
Referback to Reply #205 for the attachment posted by RENEW1 regarding testimony
YourVoiceMatters.doc
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02-06-2007, 06:28 AM
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A little blurb on how a bill becomes a law:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/html/bill.pdf#45159
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02-06-2007, 08:02 AM
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This is a new experience for me, contacted the Transportation Committee Clerk
** The speakers are taken in the sequence they register in WITHOUT regard to the specific bill. Getting to the Committee Hearing Room early if there is a line for the 9:00 sign-up, would allow for earlier testimony . Again, speaker sign up sequence, not Bill number sequence, for speaking
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** If attending, but not speaking, please consider written testimony, 50 copies to the clerk by 9:00 AM. The Clerks then collate in House Bill Number sequence for each of the 34 Representatives on the Transportation Committee. Reason to identify the Bill Number and Title at the top of the written testimony.
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Don,
Do we have any gauge on how the written testimony is processed? Could this be more powerful than a 3 minute song and dance?
The fact they do not go in order of Bill is odd... how do you keep momentum on one subject....
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02-06-2007, 10:20 AM
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Hey Guys:
I cannot make it on Friday. Please remind our lawmakers in Hartford of the tens of thousands of 2-cycle trimmers, blowers, motorbikes, edgers, mowers, chainsaws and the like, that are far more polluting than our 4 stroke car engines, that are allowed to run with no regulation what-so-ever.
Keep in mind that most of these guys have no training in science. They are typically business people who manage to get elected in their town. I would be amazed if any of the Reps from my town had any understanding of hydro-carbons, carbon monoxite and carbon dioxide. Many of them consider trees to be cause of forest fires.
Bob
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02-06-2007, 05:16 PM
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Pointing out other areas of "ALLEDGED" pollution is exactly what you DON'T want to do.That state has enough bull$hit laws with giving then any ideas.
Keep the comparisons POSITIVE,not negative-use Arizona as an example.As of Jan 1 we no longer have to smog cars 15 years or older that have a classic car insurance policy on them.
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02-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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Does anyone know how many registered motor vehicles there are in the state of CT? I think this can add to the case... what actual percentage are we looking at here with 300 composites???
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02-07-2007, 07:47 AM
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** CT Registrations as of 1-25-2007:
Grand Total of All Registrations: 3,006,055
Passenger Car: 2,170,047
Combo Plate: 361,858
Commercial: 78,320
Motorcycle: 85,897
......did not ask for other categories. My thanks, again, to the DMV contact that has been extremely helpful.
** Confirmed with the Transportation Committee Clerk, speakers are in the sequence of sign-up, not House Bill sequence
** The speaker will indicate on the sign up sheet whether private citizen etc., It will be possible to determine if the DMV and DEP personnel will be speaking.
** Reason for the 9:00 deadline for turning in the written testimony. The Clerk attempts to collate all written testimony, 50 copies required, in Bill Number sequence for each Representative to have in front of them during the speaking session
** If not speaking, written testimony can still be provided, and is encouraged.
** If not attending , send your written testimony to
FAX: 869-240-0021: Direct the FAX to Antonio in the House Transportation Committee and mention HB 5790
e-mail to Antonio:
antonio.peronace@cga.ct.gov
With in person, e-mail and fax capability for the written testimony, every interested party should be able to provide documentation.
** Written testimony can also be provided to the Transportation Committee office, Room 2300 LOB, prior to Friday 2/9, If after 9:00 on Friday 2/9, the Representatives will still receive but may not have the document in front of them during the Public Hearing
** Regarding the value of the written testimony, guess on my part, but allows the House Representatives to personally review and recall the various points of view, supporting comments, any statistics etc., after having listened to all the testmony on numerous bills and public hearings, over a number of days.
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02-07-2007, 07:53 AM
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Don,
A thought would be, can all who will attend meet up somehow there for combined strategy.??
Also what do you think of this used w/perm letter:
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Dear Joint Transportation Committee Member:
By this letter, I am requesting your support for legislation (H.B. No.5790) to exempt composite vehicles from emissions testing including street rods and custom cars, kit cars and replicas.
This legislation represents a number of important benefits to a huge number of Connecticut residents. The Connecticut street rod and custom vehicle community is an important part of our State.
Street rods and custom cars are the same crowd pleasers that participate in exhibitions and as parade vehicles, and whose owners regularly contribute to charities and civic events. H.B. 5790 simply recognize the immeasurable amount of time, money and thought automotive hobbyists invest in their cars. For many vehicle enthusiasts in Connecticut and throughout America, building, maintaining and enjoying their vehicles is a favorite pastime. This legislation represents an opportunity to acknowledge their commitment to the hobby and to protect it for future generations.
Based on model legislation crafted by the Specialty Equipment market Association (SEMA), similar bills have been enacted in Illinois (2002), Missouri (2004), Rhode Island (2004), Montana (2005) and Maine (2005). A version of the bill was also enacted in Hawaii (2004). The New York, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Virginia, Wyoming and Arkansas Legislatures have already introduced the SEMA model for the 2006 legislative session.
Thank you for your consideration. If you have any questions, or require additional information please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
xxx
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02-07-2007, 08:39 AM
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Steve, good thought, but by Friday morning @ 9:00 the 50 copies of the written testimony will need to be prepared.
Difficult to determine what is valued more, the written or the speaking session, especially with 34 members on the House Transportation Committee. Remeber that all members of the Transportation Committee may or may not be present during the entire Public Hearing due to conflicts with other Committee schedules etc., implies the importance of the written testimony to inform all 34.
There is no right or wrong approach, but when I was on a Corporate Public Affairs Committee, we encouraged everyone to use their own words and thoughts to convey the message which is implied in the title of HB 5790,:
Title: AN ACT CONCERNING COMPOSITE VEHICLES.
Statement of Purpose: To exempt composite vehicles from emissions testing because such vehicles are only driven a few miles per year.
The thought being that if every written document was similar or even exactly the same ( resembles a petition ), there could be a tendency to ignore the document, not knowing the preferences and thought process of 34 individuals .
The point is valid in mentioning what other states are doing.
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